samrocks
Premium
join:2003-07-30
1 edit | Comcast finally lower prices? Not!!
Comcast will finally lower cable tv prices. Not!!! They will probably under estimate the bells. |
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cevans59
Premium
join:2003-08-14
Smithton, IL | What about??
What about those of us who can't even get regular DSL? I guess they will just bypass us again. |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA | Great if you live in the burbs
Oh and great if you don't have to wait on QWORST. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| reply to cevans59
Re: What about??
said by cevans59  :What about those of us who can't even get regular DSL? I guess they will just bypass us again. What I find particularly hilarious is they think that it will do the job. By todays standards 24 mbit will do the job. for regular content and tv.
Fast forward 5 years when hdtv programs are more common and hdtv tv's are more widely spread and they have a serious problem. TV on demand is not going to take off like they assume. and streaming a channel in mid riff will cause some serious bandwidth issues when there is a popular show on.
They need to get their heads out of the sand and realize fiber is the future and if they want a piece of the tv pie they need to roll it out. Sure their vdsl may be good for data. But what happens when you start having multiple tv's run another pair to the home for another 24 mbit? The cost of the dslams alone and having to built remote terminals every 2500 feet because vdsl signal is easily degraded pushes their dreams on a fire. Not to mention compression tv looks like crap. Errr sorry I meant super compressed tv. What is next real player set top boxes ?
They expect to be the #2 tv provider in their area ? Ahh hate to say this but that is if they completely rely on that satellite feed. and then it won't be them who is the #2 it will be the provider they choose to carry the satellite signal.
And to keep on the rant  This is why the people running these companies are allowed to screw people for millions they don't understand what people want, they don't understand technology, they don't care about any future but their own, and they only want to give their investors a penny on their shares today. Not $10 in 2 years.
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
|  reply to cevans59
said by cevans59 :What about those of us who can't even get regular DSL? I guess they will just bypass us again. No kidding. I am 20K feet away from the CO! Grr!  |
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Rob850
join:2003-04-11
Mary Esther, FL | reply to flushls
Re: Great if you live in the burbs
Bring it on. One small company hickorytech is already doing this. Cable TV over phone line.
Rob
»www.robfwb.com |
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ | reply to cevans59
Re: What about??
You must live in Phoenix. |
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bmn
? ? ?
Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| Defintely overly optimistic
said by Bellsouth:
"We believe it is possible to provide speeds fast enough to make triple play services over IP a reality using a mosaic approach of fiber and next generation DSL"
Voice, video and data over 24 Mbps simultaneously... I'll believe it when I see it... And I'll probably be disappointed.
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64 bit CPUs and OSes? That's so 1996.
Viva La Fee' Verte! |
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djdanska
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
clubs: | Sbc
Sbc/ameritech sold off americast, and now they realize the mistake they made. Now they want back in the video business. Or it seems that way...
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Soundfx4
join:2005-02-08
Roanoke, VA
| USA Internet is screwed
The Internet in the US is screwed...(sigh) right now only greedy companies own the equipment, and the wires that provide everyone in the us internet access. That is why the internet is slower here than in Japan, and that is why 5 years is the wait time for IP TV. There are only two things that will save the internet here in the US. The first thing is if a company buys everyone out and finally starts supplying the speed that everyone deserves, but nobody has enough money to do that. The other thing is if we start a revolution, and put pressure on the major internet suppliers of the US, like verizon. But neither of those are going to happen, so I hope you all like waiting, because when it comes to technology, the US is always going to be many many years behind what we are capable of. |
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Cthen
join:2004-08-01
Ypsilanti, MI
·Comcast
|  It has never hurt it before..
"DVDs will remain the predominant mechanism for [film] delivery for the next five years," claims one Netflix executive, when asked by the San Francisco Business Times to chime in on SBC's TV plans.
All the cable companies out there didn't hurt it, so how is some other T.V. service gonna damage it? |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to bmn
Re: Defintely overly optimistic
The "mosaic approach" is going to be BS's downfall. The existng "mosaic" of DSL availability and quality is why the already lose so much business to cable providers. Too much guesswork is required to order service. SBC's FTTN project has at least the promise that they would enable service on a neighborhod-by-neighborhood basis.quote:
Voice, video and data over 24 Mbps simultaneously... I'll believe it when I see it... And I'll probably be disappointed.
I'm amused that the "solution" to the HDTV bandwidth problem is to compress the hell out of it. Hello? HDTV is about picture quality. These companies are gearing up to do all of this deployment for a service that's going to be inferior to the existing cable company. What are they thinking? DirecTV, I understand, handling local HDTV channels for the nation is a massive undertaking. But the Bells shouldn't bother deploying a second rate service. Verizon has the right idea. Deploy fiber and get it over with already.
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TIS_sCREWed
| reply to Soundfx4
Re: USA Internet is screwed
Well... perhaps they understood it twas' Valentine's day n' the internet needed a good screwing too  |
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Chris 313
Come get some
Premium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA
clubs:
·Comcast
·Comcast
·Charter Pipeline
·Comcast Digital Vo..
·AT&T CallVantage
| Still a factor!
BellSouth knows they can provide up to 24MBps of connectivity to users within a decent distance from the CO.
Yeah, but what happens speed wise when your outside whatever distance? Hello SnowTv! |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA
| reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: What about??
It's time for that damn clown to follow up on your rant!
No the CryBaby bells don't really see the future, they are looking though the rose coloured glasses of their regulated past. This means they like many persons in former communist countries they really don't understand the free market.
The Cable Co's have all ready kicked the Sh*t out of them in the Urban markets leaving them only crumbs. The indies and the WISP's are really starting to braze their bologna out in the sticks. But they think that since they are the Bells they can do what they want ..... and we have to take it, however they are not in Kansas anymore.
Some one once said "entrepreneurship is more about destruction than creation." And I bet the next 2 years are going to show this in the BB telecomm bus. And then there will much wailing and nashing of teeth by both the employees of the Bells and the Stockholders.
Flushls |
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AboutBell1
AboutBell
Premium
join:2004-12-13
| Read between the lines
Let me try explain a few things. First of all, take anything the marketing departments of the Bells are saying with a grain of salt. It's mostly marketecture and not really based on actual network architecture and engineering fundamentals.
They are blasting out these press releases to try slow the loss of customers to the cable providers that are offering VoIP as part of a triple bundle threat today. The cable companies have the network architecture TODAY to offer just about EVERYTHING and anything they want including multiple HDTV channels simultaneously with VoIP and internet. The best the Bells can hope to say is that they eventually will be able to offer the same things but their networks are no where near close to that today by and large.
The only thing that excites me about the Bells future plans is Fibre to the home. That will give them more capability than coax. Anything else is just a stop gap and bandaid solution. As long as there is twisted copper pair to the home, you will be limited to much less than what the cable companies can do. Even if the fibre termination is at your driveway, your still not gonna get the same capability as a coax cable can pump into your home. Compression can and IS only doing so much. End of story!
This article I read today seems to be one of the more unbiased ones which I think describes the business realities of both sides, now and in future, very accurately.
»www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/···hnology/ |
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ohboyhrwego
@optonline.net
| reply to samrocks
Re: Comcast finally lower prices? Not!!
You mean a cable company might have to care about the quality of service? We might acutally get what they were talking about in 1995-1996?
I hope it doesn't take another 10 years before the cablecos upgrade to compete with fiber.... they might get an upset stomach from all the churn and burn, hehehehehe... |
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wadewood
Premium
join:2003-05-04
Houston, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to AboutBell1
Re: Read between the lines
I agree. Video, HDTV, is not going to work over IP unless you have a huge pipe. Copper twisted pair can't handle that, only fiber.
Qwest would have already been gobbled up, but is so far in debt nobody wants them. If you are in Qwest footprint, fiber to the home is not going to happen anytime soon for you. |
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mikepd
Discovery
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-26
New Port Richey, FL
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
| Interesting times ahead
While fiber requires amps after a certain distance to maintain the signal, there will be no limitation as there is with DSL.
Verizon plans to allow every house they wire a full 622Mbs of bandwidth and they can increase that down the road once equipment is more mature.
VDSL is a stop-gap measure as it has too many problems and as long as the telcos can find good provider content and not just 500 channels of the shopping network then I think that they will provide the cable companies with serious competition and competition is always good for the consumer.
FIOS should be here before the start of fall and I can't wait to get my hands on at least the 15/2 service. MPEG 4 along with a lot of other pieces of the puzzle are coming together this fall and it promises to be an interesting time.
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Soundfx4
join:2005-02-08
Roanoke, VA | reply to TIS_sCREWed
Re: USA Internet is screwed
lol, |
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