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Comments on news posted 2005-02-07 12:14:13: "We like to say that it’s not just the speed, but what you can do with it," suggests an Indiana Comcast spokesman in response to Verizon's Fios (fiber to the home) deployment plans in Fort Wayne. ..

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rockinturbo

join:2001-12-21
Fort Wayne, IN


3 edits
limited newsgroup usage

"We like to say that it’s not just the speed, but what you can do with it," suggests an Indiana Comcast spokesman "
comcrap has limited newsgroup think 1-2 gigs a month.

3/256 that slows down when more people are on it the week ends are terrible.yeah I'd say they can compete with FIOS 5/2 (the slowest speed) maybe this guy has drifted down the street to the rock (bar down the street from there ft. Wayne office)for his lunch to many time.If he actually thinks comcast has been providing the same thing for the last 6 years.
edited because I just woke up and typed 768 instead of 256.was thinking of my old roadrunner tele worker acount in Ohio.


HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO

LOL

Ya that sounds like AOL lol Comcast, face it, is IS the speed! Cause without speed you can't do anything Face it, FIOS is gonna kick yer booty where it competes with you, in terms of speed and price. If it ever comes here, which I doubt, I would be gone in a second to FIOS.
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moby866
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join:2000-10-07
Above you
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It is the speed!

If FIOS or another fiber based service could be delivered where I live, Comcast would be gone. But since SBC management wants to sit on their hands I really doubt I will have a fiber to the node or curb service for a long, long time. I do hope that the fiber roll out prods the other telcos to get the idea about speed.
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ogar

join:2001-12-05
Ephrata, PA
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it's Not the Speed?

Wow I have been a big supporter of comcast over the years and have been very cirtical of Verizon. But if that is the attitude of Comcast then I have a feeling that they will become the next AOL. Comcast can come up with any kind of flashy website and offer connent for download but this will not increase thier user base. There are other sites that will currenty offer better content for free then COmcast does and will continue to grow. When I look for an internet provider it is strictly for the maximum speed with a price point under 60$. Lets all hope Verizonz Fios will be a reality for many of us in the near future.

Yetskii

join:2002-03-01
Hazel Park, MI
Upload and price will win

I can do more with 2 meg upload than I can with Comcast piddly one.....especially at a cheaper price...

I hope they get to Michigan soon....
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DonLibes
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join:2003-01-19


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reply to HotRodFoto
Re: LOL

I use none of Comcast's "free" extras (email, usenet, video email, ftp, webspace, their "fan", or anything else on their portal). I don't even use their DNS server. Everything else I need I get from other providers.

What's left?
- reliability
- $$
- speed

In that order.

SoilFlames
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join:2002-03-17
Andover, MN
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heh

That's what men who have small genitals say.

That's basically comcast saying that they can't compete with the speed so they are going to milk the content.


Derch
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join:2004-10-16
Tulsa, OK
Bye bye Cable...

I'm going to agree with everyone against cable. There is more into fiber than cable.


HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
reply to DonLibes
Re: LOL

same......I don't use anything that they offer. Not an ounce. For me its simply a connection. And speed for me matters greatly.
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HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
reply to SoilFlames
Re: heh

Yep! Sounds like AOL as I said.....lol


xdeadhead
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast

for many the bottom line will be

which greedy, non-caring, mega huge corporation do you want to give your hard earned money to? i for one hate having to pay the damn cable company any more than i have to (for example, i dont have digital cable and zero pay tv channels) and i run into people all the time who detest paying comcast anything but the bare minimum. other side of the issue is there are plenty of folks who say the same thing about verizon. there comes a point where the huge download speed issue is moot when all your kids care about is hogging up the computer with aol or bubster, or kazaa, or bearshare or whichever illegal file sharing app their friends are using. i will take the fios if it becomes available in my lifetime. til then i reluctantly use comcast cause right now i have no other viable broadband alternative. of course regulation for cable companies isnt far off either. so that is someting else to consider and prolly is being discussed right now in a different forum.


J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI

reply to ogar
Re: it's Not the Speed?

It's Not The Speed is a situational response. If the topic is comparison to Fios, the response is used. If the topic is comparison to DSL, it certainly appears that Comcast's response is It's The Speed of their product that differentiates it from DSL. Who says you can't have it both ways?


XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
15 megabits down and 2 megabits upload for $50

What a deal !!!!!!!!!!!!!

achuchma

join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL

SWEET!

Verizon has been deploying a lot of fiber down county roads in my area for the past several months (and they are not trunk lines to COs - They just terminate in the middle of nowhere).

Since I am not too far from Ft. Wayne, hopefully my area will be one of the next ones to be serviced!

WOO HOO! Go FIOS!
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prestonlewis
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join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick

Sure I'd like FIOS but . . .

Comcast here in Sacramento used to be Sacramento Cable so I'm not sure if that is why I have excellent service and speeds (4200/384). No noticed outtages, everything seems perfect. SBC on the other hand is a horror with an old infrastructure, outtages due to water in the lines somewhere, and slow DSL because almost everyone is "too far from the CO".

We do have Roseville Telephone (Surewest now) laying fiber in SBC neighborhoods but alas, not in mine. I'd switch to Roseville Telephone in a heartbeat if they ever do lay fiber in my neighborhood. As for SBC, they expect to locate an RT in my nieghborhood in 2007 but that's a telco promise which is about as good as a snowball in you know where.

Telco promises in the last decade or two have largely been hot air. I'll believe widespread fiber implementation when I see it. They're already in debt from their mega mergers and laying fiber will cost billions but on the other hand, they'll go down like AT&T with the consumer market if they don't do anything. In the meantime, Comcast is offering local telephone service to me this year and I'll probably switch. At least where I live, Comcast is much superior to our telco, SBC.


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

reply to rockinturbo
Re: limited newsgroup usage

3/768? From Comcast? If you are still getting 3mbps, then your upload is 256k. If you either have the speed upgrade or the $10.00 extra without the upgrade, it's 4mbps/384k. If you have the $10.00 extra *AND* the upgrade, it's 6mbps/768.

I have the $10.00 extra without the upgrade(yet) and get:

TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.1e
click START to begin
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 371.88Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 4.08Mb/s

...rather consistantly, any time of the day - any day of the week. YMMV.

As to FIOS, maybe in a few *YEARS*, Verizon will decide to make it's way to my area... but by then, Comcast will likely have me to 10mbps.
Keep in mind, FIOS is in a VERY limited deployment. In the 3-5 years it will take Verizon to reach most of us, and if doesn't choke, there will probably be other players in the Fiber playground.

I'm not holding my breath.
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xlimitx

join:2001-12-31
Wilkes Barre, PA
HDTV over FIOS

I just want to see how much of the 5Mbps pipe is left after 1 or 2 HDTV sessions are being pushed down that feed.


Ignite
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join:2004-03-18
UK
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Umm the limitation on the internet won't affect potential TV over fibre, that will be provisioned completely seperately from the internet, remeber this is a pipe capable of well over the 5 / 15 / 25Mbps but limited to that level. TV services will be provisioned over their own bandwidth and won't affect or be affected by internet usage in any way.


pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
Premium
join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs:
·Comcast

reply to prestonlewis
Re: Sure I'd like FIOS but . . .

said by prestonlewis See Profile:

Comcast here in Sacramento used to be Sacramento Cable so I'm not sure if that is why I have excellent service and speeds (4200/384). No noticed outtages, everything seems perfect. SBC on the other hand is a horror with an old infrastructure, outtages due to water in the lines somewhere, and slow DSL because almost everyone is "too far from the CO".

We do have Roseville Telephone (Surewest now) laying fiber in SBC neighborhoods but alas, not in mine. I'd switch to Roseville Telephone in a heartbeat if they ever do lay fiber in my neighborhood. As for SBC, they expect to locate an RT in my nieghborhood in 2007 but that's a telco promise which is about as good as a snowball in you know where.

Telco promises in the last decade or two have largely been hot air. I'll believe widespread fiber implementation when I see it. They're already in debt from their mega mergers and laying fiber will cost billions but on the other hand, they'll go down like AT&T with the consumer market if they don't do anything. In the meantime, Comcast is offering local telephone service to me this year and I'll probably switch. At least where I live, Comcast is much superior to our telco, SBC.
Yeah, as an ex PacBell/SBC DSL customer (3 yrs) I find comcast is ok, but we can't legally run servers.
I'm in a neighborhood that has fiber from Surewest (I can see it outside my window) ran, but they refuse to run a drop here (apartment)
Anyway, I do hope Verizon's FiOS comes to CAL and it allows "real" usage such as servers and whatnot... and no caps!
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vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD

EXACTLY

Its not the speed but what you can do with it! Verizon doesnt offer caps, and has free newsgroup service! Comcast is like that car insurance place that gives lower quotes from competetors!! Except they do it out of stupidity!
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