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Comments on news posted 2005-01-29 12:55:18: Verizon plans to formally announce on Monday that it will use Microsoft's television technology in the launch of its FiOS TV service this year. ..

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TKJunkMail
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 Ctrl/Alt/Del button on TV ??

Looks like Microsoft is getting into the Home Theater market big time as PC's and TV's and sound systems all merge. Along with their deals with cable companies, this may be how Microsoft keeps it dominance in the home.

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I think

if or when FIOS comes to my area I will just keep my DirectTv service. I have never had a problem with it and I am determined not to let everything I own, electronics wise, become Microsoft contaminated.


rob_in_chatt
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Dominance

see this is the problem......all a huge loophole that ends up back to the problem that bugs everyone the most. copyright infringement. the technology is gearing up towards making everything available on the PC (movies, music and TV shows) so now you run into a user defined level of what is right and what is wrong. i have a tv tuner card and it records very well, just as good as a dvd recorder or even tivo. problem is that recording onto a vcr tape for your personal use isnt wrong. but doing it on your pc is. is it because of the ease of sharing on the pc? no it is because that hollywood feels they are being jipped. i have been and always will be a supporter of the black market for songs and software etc, because my theory is simple. if you can not make a million bucks last you a life time, then you my friend are a complete and total idiot for not properly investing your funds. that is your fault. if there would be some sort of regulation on how much people cold be paid, like baseball players. Roger Clemens was offered 21 million dollars to play this year but he is in arbitration to make it 30 million. that is outrageous. its this kind of poor management that is forcing people to do things the free and not so always legal way. what pisses me off is that since 9-11 everything has gone up. gas and milk and food blah blah and so on. has my pay rate increased along with this? no sir it has not and it is frustrating. the ISPs and the AA's need to meet in the middle on this issue and it needs to be resolved. we are on the cusp of something big, and its going to be digital. there will be no more blockbuster videos. as soon as hte ISPs realize they are holding back the progression of the internet, then we will be able to progress forward. imagine if you were to legally obtain dvd copies of movies such as blockbuster. and you were legally able to make them available for download for a fee. the problem is that a dvd is 4 to 7 gigs. you download 5 or 6 and you might approach that invisible limit of unlimited internet. i know i might be straying a lttle bit from the actual subject here, but the fact is that we are progressing towards an all digital age so the roadblocks that are preventing us from progressing need to be removed. just my 2 cents


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the general public has microsoft & the military has the ucmj. any ?'s.


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Re: Dominance

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if you can not make a million bucks last you a life time, then you my friend are a complete and total idiot for not properly investing your funds. that is your fault.
HOOAH! Im with you 100% on this!

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Comcast Micro$oft TV guide
Just this week our on screen guide on Comcast cable was upgraded to Micro$oftTV. My only worry is that some 12 year old scrpit kiddie is going to hack into my cable box and make it so I can only tune in the pr0n channels:o


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said by b10010011 See Profile:

Just this week our on screen guide on Comcast cable was upgraded to Micro$oftTV. My only worry is that some 12 year old scrpit kiddie is going to hack into my cable box and make it can only tune in the pr0n channels:o
And that would be a bad thing????
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Dominance

Where do you people come from?? a million bux isn't that much at all.

I could blow through it in about an hour if that. If I had a million dollars I would invest Some of it but certainly not all.

Money is meant to be spent not saved


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Verizon follows SBC & BST

With the BSOD TV!

Actually, I can see why they would use this platform. First, its a better approach for bandwidth-constrained local-loop networks with 2-3 Mbps SDTV and 8-Mbps HDTV.

SBC & BST are using ADSL2+ for 12-24 Mbps local piping and Fios, well, so far 30 Mbps. Now converge data and IP-voice and its a solution they all want to get in on.


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Just what I want.. the BSOD on my TV screen!


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Thats why....

...Convergence won't work on a scale that microsoft envisions. People want their stereo to work, and not depend upon 10 other gizmos to keep it functioning. The future is interlopability between devices, not built-in convergence schemes! They'll get it right eventually, after pushing this billion dollar POS idea down our throats.


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I am determined not to let everything I own, electronics wise, become Microsoft contaminated.
Some of us are determined not to let anything we own become Microsloth contaminated
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Re: Dominance

Hey, anyone see ABC's John Stossel's
"Give Me a Break" ?? He went through the top 10 myths of seemingly bad things that are actually good. But I think he missed out on one, George Bush getting re-elected.... people losing their jobs to outsourcing is a good thing, greed (or privitization) is good too, versus sharingm, etc etc etc..
Anyone can make a perception of something seemingly good seem bad: it's called politics. Microsoft being the transport of choice. Cable companies have snubbed M.$. for years about providing a digital tv 'box' and 'codec' format for ip/digital based TV services, well.. if Windows XP is any indication-- it will be hacked in no-time flat...
Next, the service will provide directv and video on demand services via the network... probably have some form of unbundling of channels.
Where it gets sticky, is what happens when people file swap at 2-15mbits the content that they pay to receive? The music industry found it's first big enemy, the windows based pc's and mp3 file format... No doubt some combination of codecs (2-3) will come together to find the best scaleable balance of quality and compression (divx/xvid/mpeg look like short term winners today) because it allows for what people want to do with it (share), but it won't be long before content providers will be going through a similar crisis. Tough, that's technology's process... And I personally think that anyone who pays for a cable tv bill 12/12 months each year should not be charged with ripping off most content, since it will eventually be transmitted as permissions in a future licensed verssion as part of your catv bill, so.. there!
The only abhorant thing you should not be able to do is profit from re-selling the content.

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Just what I want.. the BSOD on my TV screen!
Embedded windows doesn't blue screen.

The main reason for any and all crashes are poorly written software and poorly written drivers. This is eliminated in embedded solutions. Especially considering it is developed by MS themselves for themselves.

Try as hard as you want to bash MS but they aren't going away any time soon.
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Re: Thats why....

said by WaxPhoto See Profile:

...Convergence won't work on a scale that microsoft envisions. People want their stereo to work, and not depend upon 10 other gizmos to keep it functioning. The future is interlopability between devices, not built-in convergence schemes! They'll get it right eventually, after pushing this billion dollar POS idea down our throats.
There is no where saying one thing relies on another to operate. The embedded systems will be just like a tivo or a cable box itself, nothing more nothing less.

There is no convergence schemes here. They are offering the standard system comcast does now but over a different medium. Is comcast the same way ? No because they are not MS.

Get off your soap box and get the facts before you argue a point like this.
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Rebooting the TV

I all ready have to reboot my TW DRV every month or else my TV crashes, just imaging when " Did you catch the game last night? No I got a BSOD last night I called my ISP they said it was on my end. So I replaced my NIC on my set but it wasent compatible with MS TV or defective, so now I'm waiting to RMA my NIC card. Hopfuly I'll be able to record that show next week If everything goes well."


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Re: Dont forget Comcast!

That screen looks like its made for a 5yr old. OMG it is soo ugly.

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reply to rob_in_chatt
Re: Dominance

rob_in_chatt:You hit the nail right on the Head The Movie Companys are holding back Convergence to the Living Room .If you watched what happened at CES last Month it was Geared that way all a person has to do is look at the Hardware coming out .A-Open the Motherboard Company released a 429 Pin Motherboard that is perfect for the Living room PC put in a Dothan 2 Ghz Cpu and a couple of 400 Gig harddrives a HDTV Tunercard a All in wonder Videocard,Dual layer DVD Recorder 2-512 sticks of Memory and a Plasma or LCD,Dlp, or front Projector and a 6.1 Channel Soundcard along with a Reciever ,Subwoofer and five Identicle Speakers.I have the THX Ultra2 Klipsch package.With the Dothan Laptop Intel Processor it runs whisper quite and is ready for VOIP/Interactive TV/HDTV 1080X1920/ theonly thing holding it back is the availability to download PPV Movies In HDTV Format they can be stored till the Blu-ray DVD Recorders come out.I would rather do it this way instead of buying Movies already on DVD .I want to make my own menus choose whether 16X9 or 4/3 .A Custom DVD makes more sense to me and they could do the same with Audio I want the 24 Bit 192 Khz Sampling rate DVD Audio thank you very much.
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