exocet_cm
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TKJunkMail
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2 edits |  If you can't beat them; join them
If you can't beat them, then either buy them or join them. The profit motive will not be blocked. Eventually every anti-spyware company will be either bought or co-opted by these adware sharks.
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Rickez
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Reading the web site of COAST it is easy to see they are just chock full of S***. |
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Nanoprobe
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Agreed! And the internet will continue to decline into a money grabbing at all cost cesspool. No wonder so many users are leaving. 
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Doctor Four
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2 edits | COAST can no longer be trusted anymore
Now that they've allowed an adware company to join their
ranks, one must really question COAST's integrity and
trustworthiness. And by extension, this could now apply
to their member companies. Aluria we know has already gone
over to the dark side. And if CA and Webroot don't want to
be seen in a similar manner, it would be wise of them to
disassociate themselves from COAST.
BTW, are Lavasoft and PepiMK still COAST members? Or did
they pull out some time ago?
Edit: I just read over at grc.spyware that Patrick Kolla
refused to join COAST, while Lavasoft actually pulled out of
the organization some time ago. Also, a quote from one
of the GRC regulars that sums this up pretty well:
said by Mark V:
When you finally get enough foxes into the henhouse, only foxes
reside there. It is now a fox den, not a henhouse.
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Re: If you can't beat them; join them
Another excellent reason to switch to Linux ... You may not have realised a glaring fact by now, but they have.
The fact is they need each other ... The AV and Antispyware groups needing to have scumware to scan for ... and the scums need some of their stuff to go undetected to survive.
Do you think it's an accident that these marketing groups have gotten richer and richer over the years? ... doubling in numbers, just like the antispyware company's.
If the antispyware apps worked half as good as they claim they do online marketing would be a dying business ... and they would't be getting richer and richer every year.
switch to Linux and shake loose of all of these scumbags ... starting with the biggest spy of all ... Microsoft. |
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bobince
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Re: COAST can no longer be trusted anymore
Lavasoft pulled out a long time ago, with some fanfare. PepiMK were never part of it in the first place.
This is the end for COAST. nCase have not made *any* efforts at all to reform; they are still installing on IE security holes to this day.
CA and Webroot will have to leave this laughing-stock of an organisation. Even WhenU and Weatherbug are going to find this association embarrassing. |
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Goldman
join:2002-06-21
Maumelle, AR | reply to exocet_cm
Re: Absolutely
This doesn't legitimize 180. We can now toss COAST onto the same steaming pile with Aluria, WhenU, Gator and the others. You're either with us or against us. |
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ced06
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Towanda, PA | ridiculous
I hope someone DDOS attacks 180Solutions. No really, I do. |
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mrchris
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North Babylon, NY | Pathetic
Who in their right minds would invite an adware company into COAST? Sad day. |
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xm4yh3mx
join:2005-01-11
Princeton, NJ | lets hope ad-aware stays legit.
lets hope ad-aware stays legit. does anyone know what clan spydoctor is in? |
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claudeo
join:2000-02-23
Redmond, WA
| For inside info
What better way to figure out how to beat anti adware solutions than to get inside info on anti adware techniques? That's why most of those scumbags probably watch forums like this one, and spamming tool developers probably also subscribe to spamcop--they want to stay abreast of the latest detection techniques so they can work around them, and the cat and mouse game goes on...
People who use legitimate but free tools without ever making a donation should think hard about this... It's awfully hard to stay honest without revenue. |
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4 edits | reply to salient
Re: If you can't beat them; join them
I want:
-Auto mounting of removable media (Windows seems to already know the file system and ISO type... hmmm...)
-Native gaming support for all Windows titles
-Auto detection of all my hardware, hence the need to not run xorgconfig before running the GUI
before ever considering moving to Linux. It's a waste of my time if I can't plug in my USB thumb drive or my iPod without being able to immediately use it.
That said; you are probably running with very limited privileges which is something most Windows users never do, because they don't know any better than "internet explorer is the internet." If users ran as a limited user and only used the administrator account for certain administrative issues, then Windows would not have even have half the problems it has now.
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claudeo
join:2000-02-23
Redmond, WA | reply to salient
[q]Another excellent reason to switch to Linux ... [/q] What does that have to do with anything? There is just no sufficient installed base of Linux desktops run by technically inept people to justify any kind of adware effort. |
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koitsu
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Mountain View, CA |  reply to Goldman
Re: Absolutely
Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Thaler
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Does this mean we toss in all of COAST's members into the big steaming pile too, or just whatever COAST as a group says?
I'd hope that Computer Associates, Webroot, etc. are not too pleased that they're about to fall into the same category as the crapware vendors themselves. |
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Thaler
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Re: If you can't beat them; join them
said by redxii :That said; you are probably running with very limited privileges which is something most Windows users never do, because they don't know any better than "internet explorer is the internet." If users ran as a limited user and only used the administrator account for certain administrative issues, then Windows would not have even have half the problems it has now. This needs to first start with the software vendors themselves. Most software (game titles especially) assume that the current user has full Administrative control at all times. Personally testing several games and apps, only a small amount were able to run w/o tweaking involved...and some had files located god-knows-wherever, that I just gave up trying to find out what I needed to give Users access to.
So, don't blame your average computer user for not running as a Limited User...most current day software doesn't make it easy for you to do so to begin with. |
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redxii
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1 edit | Had no problems using this little guy:
As for "tweaking", the concept is the same in Linux as it is in Windows. The whole idea is to not to let them do anything they want on the system as a limited user, or easily for that matter.
Linux: Open console, type "su" then the password that goes to root, then exec the install.
Windows: Right-click, "Run as..." and provide credentials for an account with administrator privileges.
So the average computer can still be blamed. Works in Windows 2000 as well, and including Home Edition of XP.
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Thaler
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1 edit | I thought you were supposed to only do the "Run as..." was for Administrative tasks, such as installing software, chaging settings, etc.
I would personally have all my family PCs running as limited users, but the whole "making them have to do 'Run as...'" every time they wish to run an installed application would drive me nuts. Hell, it took me a YEAR to break them of the habit of opening up AOL to access the internet.
Me: No...we've been on DSL for the last few months, you don't NEED to run AOL to get on the 'net. You're always on! Just open the browser.
Family member: Web browser...you mean AOL, right?
Me: *sigh*
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