AuraReturn
Premium
join:2003-08-18
San Francisco, CA
clubs:
1 edit |  Slow
That is pretty slow to be considered "next generation".
But I suppose it wouldn't be bad in 2005. |
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TrustedZero
join:2001-08-25
Claremont, CA | ADSL2+
Why would you role out ADSL2+ when the speeds it will support can already be supported by ADSL? |
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danza
Premium
join:2002-08-23 | Yay competition
Awesome, now there is a reason for SBC to push their ADSL2+ into the '05 market  . |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to AuraReturn
Re: Slow
As always that's not the limit. ADSL2+ can go upwards of 25Mb/s. They're just capping it at that rate because they have plans for the rest of the bandwidth and they can't unsell something they've sold. |
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FLECOM
Bay Networks Freak
Premium
join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL
1 edit | reply to AuraReturn
hah, i said it and its happening, bellsouth once again dosent give the customer what they want to try to get as much money as they can with providing as little service as they can...
oh well at least its faster than 1.5/3mbits... but still complete crap upload speeds... 512kb? 768kb? please...
also why invest all this money in ADSL2 equipment when they could be investing that into their fiber deployments?
more patches on the customers leaking to cable internet access that is cheaper, quite franky faster, and *usually* (depending on ISP) just as reliable... of course YMMV by area and such, but still.... |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to danza
Re: Yay competition
Not really. SBC and BST don't compete against each other in the ADSL business. If anything it'd be competing for shareholders. |
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asdfjkl123
@bellsouth.net | reply to TrustedZero
Re: ADSL2+
Those speeds are for surfing. The rest of the 20+ megs per sec are for IPTV and VoIP. |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| reply to bogey780
Re: Yay competition
4-6mbps can be pushed over a regular ADSL line. BellSouth announced that they were going to invest $34 billion into their whole infrastructure to upgrade to ADSL2+ (25mbps). Seriously if they are going to invest all that money for only 4-6mbps that would be a huge mistake. Hopefully with that much we will be able to see 25mbps. The distance rates for ADSL2+ are very critical as for speed goes. |
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altdel
join:2003-08-20
Danville, CA | ADSL2+ speed could be up to 25Mbps
According the the ADSL2+ standard, speed could be as high as 25Mbps (under ~3000 ft), 20Mbps (under ~5000 ft), 10Mbps (under ~8K), 6Mbps (~10,000 ft), 4Mbps (~12,000 ft) etc.
So, why only 4-6Mbps? |
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starstuff
Fly By Wire
Premium
join:2001-12-05
Mcallen, TX
| reply to TrustedZero
Re: ADSL2+
said by TrustedZero  :Why would you role out ADSL2+ when the speeds it will support can already be supported by ADSL? Bundling of additional services!
VOIP, IPTV and the most important reason, extended reach. In a few words the whole enchilada. |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
 ·Armstrong Zoom In..
 ·AT&T Midwest
| That is slow but...
For Bell South it is a pretty big step. Not everyone is in heaven (SBC territory) and could get 3mbps/512kbps for $39.95. For a Bell South customer that would be a major step.
Hence the "at first" listed in the article. That could be just initially, then with time they'll keep increasing it. Kind of like what happened here with "ADSL 1". 2 years ago 1.5mbps was super.
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green_boy35
join:2004-08-05
San Diego, CA | reply to FLECOM
Re: Slow
lol... I agree. I am using 6mbits/608k adsl service right now. ADSL2 has to be at least 10mbits. |
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to altdel
Re: ADSL2+ speed could be up to 25Mbps
said by altdel :According the the ADSL2+ standard, speed could be as high as 25Mbps (under ~3000 ft), 20Mbps (under ~5000 ft), 10Mbps (under ~8K), 6Mbps (~10,000 ft), 4Mbps (~12,000 ft) etc. So, why only 4-6Mbps? Because their competition isn't at over 6 Mbps.
Cable can go up to 38 Mbps, but I don't see cable companies offering 38 Mbps (though that probably has a bit to do with the fact that they're overloaded nodes would crumble  ). |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to bigdaddy17
Re: Yay competition
Because they can beat the cable companies in terms of speed but they'll be able to offer more services. As always bundling is where the money's at. |
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FLECOM
Bay Networks Freak
Premium
join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL
| reply to green_boy35
Re: Slow
said by green_boy35 :lol... I agree. I am using 6mbits/608k adsl service right now. ADSL2 has to be at least 10mbits. yes but you obviously dont have bellsouth 
i have to deal with these people more than i care to
even their fiber stuff they dont have a clue...
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heaphus
Geaux Tigers
Premium
join:2003-04-12
Franklinton, LA
clubs:
1 edit | Another year
It looks like some markets will go to 25Mbps in 2006. Probably after they get the fiber to the curb
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altdel
join:2003-08-20
Danville, CA
| reply to Sean
Re: ADSL2+ speed could be up to 25Mbps
I thought the driving force for deploying ADSL2+ is Triple Play, i.e., Data, voice & video. The cable companies have all three services and the Telcos only have data and voice.
Maybe they'll announce their broadcast TV, Video-on-demand services later on.... |
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FLECOM
Bay Networks Freak
Premium
join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL
| reply to dslwanter
Re: That is slow but...
said by dslwanter :For Bell South it is a pretty big step. Not everyone is in heaven (SBC territory) and could get 3mbps/512kbps for $39.95. For a Bell South customer that would be a major step. Hence the "at first" listed in the article. That could be just initially, then with time they'll keep increasing it. Kind of like what happened here with "ADSL 1". 2 years ago 1.5mbps was super. 1.5mbits was super until webpages got more fancy and windows updates got bigger
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Automate
join:2001-06-26
Atlanta, GA | Headline should read $2 billion not $2 million
2 million is pocket change to BellSouth |
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Zorglub
join:2000-11-18
Fremont, CA | reply to altdel
Re: ADSL2+ speed could be up to 25Mbps
With that kind of distance limitation, ADSL2 is useless until we get FTTC. |
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