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Comments on news posted 2004-11-30 10:38:17: "SBC in 2010 will be offering slower speeds than France and Japan in 2005," notes industry analyst Dave Burstein, who chimes in on "Project Lightspeed", the company's effort to offer ADSL2+ to residential users. ..

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Mike
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Verizon Is Expanding

....with the tax payer dollars from PA residents and not expanding in PA.


mclassing

join:2004-11-13
Columbus, OH

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So what?

Like France or Japan is anywhere near the size of the US. I get sick of hearing that Japan or whoever has the next gen cell system. We need more infrastructure in one state than they need in an entire country!

First post...almost


JTRockville
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reply to Mike
Re: Verizon Is Expanding

PA isn't being totally ignored. VZ fiber activity was reported in Chester and Bucks counties.

I hope they get it to you soon, Mike.


dslwanter
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reply to mclassing
Re: So what?

said by mclassing See Profile:

Like France or Japan is anywhere near the size of the US. I get sick of hearing that Japan or whoever has the next gen cell system. We need more infrastructure in one state than they need in an entire country!
Amen! Every time I see one of these I post that and someone always fires something at me. Infrastructure is the key, it would take more for one state than any of those other countries. Plain and simple.

Now my area will probably be one of the last areas to see this. My CO wasn't enabled with DSL until September of last year.
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reply to JTRockville
Re: Verizon Is Expanding

So THAT'S why they call it "Bucks" County!

Actually, there's a fiber initiative in Kutztown too, in Berks County. Not sure if it's VZ-related though.

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Kory
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Buck County? 37 people live in Buck County with a total of 49 teeth all together. Pittsburgh, Phillie, Erie, and Scranton are being pooped on for the past 15 years.

/enjoys AB cable
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CPM

join:2001-08-24
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F PA

OH F PA. So you got screwed. Big deal. This is old news. Get over it. Live in the now.


delt4
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reply to Mike
Re: Verizon Is Expanding

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Buck County? 37 people live in Buck County with a total of 49 teeth all together. Pittsburgh, Phillie, Erie, and Scranton are being pooped on for the past 15 years.

/enjoys AB cable
LMFAO. Mike you have the most unsual humor, but I like it tho.


Yep Its FIber

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Fiber PWNs

you know it i know it we all know that dsl is a dying technology SBC really screwed up with going that route cant wait to get fiber, next to a city that is currently being installed cant wait to see those Verizon trucks in my neighborhood.

Keep it up Verizon.


Derch
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Blah blah blah...

Both are evil, both suck donkey balls.

As for the people in PA:


JeepMatt
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reply to delt4
Re: Verizon Is Expanding

said by delt4 See Profile:

said by Mike See Profile:


Buck County? 37 people live in Buck County with a total of 49 teeth all together. Pittsburgh, Phillie, Erie, and Scranton are being pooped on for the past 15 years.

Delt-
What are you talking about? Bucks County is one of the wealthiest in the state. Looks like you're thinking of one of your Western PA locals.
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pa grape
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SBC too little-too late

I think SBC has already missed the boat. They have expanded their infrastructure too little-too late. The cable companies are too far ahead to catch up to now I beleive. Verizon may still have a chance with their FTTH, but maybe not. I dought SBC will be around in 2010.

IanR

join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
Yeah Yeah Yeah

Meantime all Verizon offer me is 1,500/384 and a lousy ability to get a decent pair for a adsl line. Better a decent ADSL2+ now than fiber in 10-15 years. Let's get realistic.


imrf
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reply to dslwanter
Re: So what?

said by dslwanter See Profile:

Infrastructure is the key, it would take more for one state than any of those other countries. Plain and simple.
Last time I looked those other countries are larger than many single states here in the US. The point being made is that there is absolutely no reason why many of out large cities can not have networks like those countries do. The fact remains that companies here in the US are greedy and don't want to spend any money. Take SBC for example with "Project Suckspeed", while Verizon is taking the initiative to run the fiber to the home where it is useful and not to the local node where we are still stuck with useless crappy copper.

Zorglub

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qdemn7
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reply to mclassing
said by mclassing See Profile:

Like France or Japan is anywhere near the size of the US. I get sick of hearing that Japan or whoever has the next gen cell system. We need more infrastructure in one state than they need in an entire country!

First post...almost
Absolutely!

That reminds me of those fools who cry:

"Why doesn't the US have widespread passenger rail service, like Japan or England or France or ....... You get the idea.

When Big Brother subsidizes all sorts of neat things, it's easy to have them. If you told the average person, (who might NOT have health care), that the US government should subsidize extremely high-speed broadband, so a bunch of technogeeks could fileshare a bunch of crap, they would look at you like were mentally ill, and they would be right.

There is a hell of lot more important things the US Government should be doing. Subsidizing broadband is at the bottom of the list, IMO.
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Re: F PA

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OH F PA. So you got screwed. Big deal. This is old news. Get over it. Live in the now.
I wish to F*** that PA would get their BB, since everytime, the subject is brought up, PA residents start crying. It'd be worth a billion or two to get them to STFU.
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dogtech
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reply to imrf
Re: So what?

They have spent all their money on ATT wireless. They don't care about landline crap. Lightspeed is one big lie. They will hand pick the areas to serve and everybody else will have to go elsewhere.....I just don't believe in SBC until they offer me these services.


delt4
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reply to JeepMatt
Re: Verizon Is Expanding

Jeepmatt, I'm not laughing at the people of Bucks county, it's Mike's sense of humor I found funny. Let's just sub something else in there besides Bucks county.

markopoleo

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They are not just upgrading for internet

I think many fail to see that while each has advantages, its not being deployed JUST for internet access, ADSL2 is suppose to be for TV/phone/internet, thats good business and it makes sense. Its just the methods they deploy them that should be looked at, not each itself, both have advantages.
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