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@204.73.x.x | http://makelovenotspam.com/intl/index.html DOWN! Website down. Can anybody who has downloaded it successfully put a post with the file attached? | |
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join:2003-07-08
Vancouver, BC | Re: http://makelovenotspam.com/intl/index.html DOWN! Me too, I want it! | |
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Angry Web host
@ipowerweb.com
| Our server is on thier attack list Well We are hosting one of the sites that is getting this "Non Ddos attack" and it is Freaking crashing apache! We changed dns and they are attacking based on ip address! WTF is that shit. There is no recourse except to sue them.
It has been continously flooding our server with http requests and it cannot return an answer. It is maxing out all the available connections and effecting over 2000 other domains on that box. That is 2000 angry customers who can are starting to file a lawauit.
Tests, what tests do they run to determine if our server will or wont crash. This is utterly bullshit. We removed that fucker spammer from our servers and we're still getting attacked. What the fuck does that tell you.
If they are attacking our server and crashing the services, is this not considered ddos? What test have they run to ensure our server does not crash?! This is utterly bullshit and we are going to sue ! | |
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Cheering Common User
@pivot.net
| Re: Our server is on thier attack list Best of luck, not.
Maybe once companies get more proactive about monitoring usage like outgoing e-mail transactions and doing their OWN work to help eliminate spammers instead of just accepting their money and looking the other way, then the masses won't have to counter attack.
Personally I LOVE the program. For a small investment in my own bandwidth multiplied by tens and HUNDREDS of thousands of users, we can collectively do something about the situation.
The magic of the internet that has allows spammers to mass e-mail people with little or no effort has now been turned around and the spammers and their accomplice host are feeling what it means to have your e-mail box and servers bogged down with their crap daily. My small kilobyte file being pulled FROM their server is the same as the small e-mail they force down the throat of my own pop server. At list in this case their URL is known and open for probing, whereas my e-mail is NOT and they use algorythms to pry the address out of the ether of the internet. Screw the spammers and screw their host.
No host is going to see a MILLION e-mail send a DAY and not wonder what the hell the accont holder is doing. They would KNOW what the account holder is doing if they just bother to take a look. | |
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SpamHater
@rr.com
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Too bad. I'm tired of ISPs who place responsibility on users to stop spam. I used to work for a tier 3 provider who was on the bleeding edge of blacklists and such to ensure none of their systems or bandwidth was used for spam.
You need to stop running open relays. There are blacklists available online which you can use. | |
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HAHAH
@ipowerweb.com
| Reverted Dns and thier site goes DOWN TOO....funny First of all we do use blacklists. Secondly we are not open fucken relay. Third of all we log all outgoing email and imcoming email, and run scripts to parse through and suspend users who send out mail faster than a specific rate and filters to filter out via baysean filtering. We control the flow of outgoing smtp connections directly and also mail via php scripts. This customer has no way to use us as a spam source. We just happen to host thier website.
And most of all important, the spam was not sent out through us, but instead they used other services (not from our company) to spam out to whoever. And they advertise thier site on the email body. Which these idiots used to ddos us, which they specifically state they do not do. They state that all they do is create many connections to slow our server down, but in fact, it is making it crash. So we did the next best thing. We forwarded the dns of the site in question to thier ip.
Guess what happend. IT CRASHED THIER SITE !! HAHAH fucken idiots, didnt even think bout that before they decide attack us. It crashed thier own site with thier own software. What a joke those guys are. | |
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ndependant Person
@rr.com
| Re: Reverted Dns and thier site goes DOWN TOO....funny Hunh.
You make me even happier that I now have this on four of my computers that are hooked up to the net with T3 lines, and two with cable connections.
On an average day, I get 250 Spam emails from companies like you. I get 10-20 real emails. I have to spend HOURS wading through the crap that you guys send to ensure that I don't lose anything. I run a Web site myself (one by the way that would NEVER spam people) so filters catch a lot of the wrong stuff. If someone emails me with a Subject line that says "Order Inquiry," I have to look at it. I waste probably an hour a day doing this.
Your SPAM is a ddos for ME. This is retribution for it. If you claim that what this is doing is wrong, then I suggest you stop spamming me and millions of others like me.
Perhaps idiot services like you "HAHAH" will start to take responsibility for their actions when you notice it hurting you in your pocketbook. This is by FAR the best way to combat Spam. If the site doesn't come back up by tomorrow, I'll see if I can can post the install file on an FTP server. | |
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MikailArchon
@net.au
| Might I point out that this system is not intented to target spammers, just those who employ the spammers. Given that the modern spammer uses trojans rather than their own machine, this makes hitting the associated sites the most viable option. It is most unforunate that your server has been hit, particulally since we seem to be fighting on the same side, but it happens. If I might recommend a course of action, remove the offending site and inform those who control "Make Love, not Spam" that you have done so. You may not get revenge, but at least some good can come out of this. | |
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Talon88
The One
join:2003-08-13
Toronto
 ·Bell Sympatico
1 edit | :::
Cool, Attack the Spammer's Customer Site is also a
good idea. It will show the world, if you found
spammer to promote you product, you site will
get attack till die. Good idea......!
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said by HAHAH:
First of all we do use blacklists. Secondly we are not open fucken relay. Third of all we log all outgoing email and imcoming email, and run scripts to parse through and suspend users who send out mail faster than a specific rate and filters to filter out via baysean filtering. We control the flow of outgoing smtp connections directly and also mail via php scripts. This customer has no way to use us as a spam source. We just happen to host thier website.
And most of all important, the spam was not sent out through us, but instead they used other services (not from our company) to spam out to whoever. And they advertise thier site on the email body. Which these idiots used to ddos us, which they specifically state they do not do. They state that all they do is create many connections to slow our server down, but in fact, it is making it crash. So we did the next best thing. We forwarded the dns of the site in question to thier ip.
Guess what happend. IT CRASHED THIER SITE !! HAHAH fucken idiots, didnt even think bout that before they decide attack us. It crashed thier own site with thier own software. What a joke those guys are.
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yipee
@216.201.x.x | Then don't host the damn site and quit your bitchen. You got hit cuz you HELP them, no site, no need for spam. Suck it up. | |
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Talon88
The One
join:2003-08-13
Toronto
·Bell Sympatico
2 edits | :::
Good to hear that MLNS is working & take your
server down. I think the best way is to kick your
Spammer Customers & tell Lycos you server is
spammer free now. Also, your 2000 customer is
anger because they are using the same server/service
with the spammer because of your company, not us.
I think they are going to file a lawsuit to your
company if they know your company are hosting
the spammer site. No One like spammer.
So, get hurry, kick the spammer site out of your
server to save you company....!
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said by Angry Web host:
Well We are hosting one of the sites that is getting this "Non Ddos attack" and it is Freaking crashing apache! We changed dns and they are attacking based on ip address! WTF is that shit. There is no recourse except to sue them.
It has been continously flooding our server with http requests and it cannot return an answer. It is maxing out all the available connections and effecting over 2000 other domains on that box. That is 2000 angry customers who can are starting to file a lawauit.
Tests, what tests do they run to determine if our server will or wont crash. This is utterly bullshit. We removed that fucker spammer from our servers and we're still getting attacked. What the fuck does that tell you.
If they are attacking our server and crashing the services, is this not considered ddos? What test have they run to ensure our server does not crash?! This is utterly bullshit and we are going to sue !
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gruh6
| that is what YOU get for letting the spammers do their
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ArmyCats
@cable.rogers
| First of all, I thought you (ipowerweb.com) was the victim of this anti-spam program and actually felt a bit sorry for it... But after seeing you with all those swear words, I think you really deserve it... :O Yes, yes, we know it's the client's fault and we know you can't possibly monitor all 10 thousand websites you have on your servers... but at least sound more sincere, otherwise you just look like a bad host started by a 13 year old trying to make a few extra bucks... | |
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Ipowerweb User
@me.us
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First of all, I thought you (ipowerweb.com) was the victim of this anti-spam program and actually felt a bit sorry for it...
I host my personal site on ipowerweb and it has been running as good as ever. If it was ipowerweb, it must have been just their spammer supporting server, because their regular ones are unaffected.
If ipowerweb is truely supporting spamming that is sad, they otherwise seem like a really good ISP. | |
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Strike Hard
@61.50.x.x
| Vigilante It really is a denial of service because you are denying the host of providing service which would otherwise occur as a result of natural behavior. This is an artificial behavior designed and specifically targeted to deny natural service. That being said, I use it and hope everyone else uses it too. No one wants spam, and since laws cannot stop them, we resort to vigilante action. So we're vililantes, good for us. | |
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blahblah3
@1ds3.com
| Re: Vigilante i'm with you on that. seems that this "tool" had to have been created to give all of us, ordinary folk, a fighting chance to get our inboxes back 
too bad, really, that it's killing the server of the HOST of the company who hired the spammer. call it a friendly fire. next time 'just say No to spammers and/or their employer(s).
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Wazzerty
| Make Love Not Spam hacked Today, Make love Not spam is offline because it was be hacked. By who ? Somebody paid by spammers ? noboby knows .. | |
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ArmyCats
@cable.rogers | Re: ok... why am I flooded by requests? my bad, the ip range was 203.80.97.1 up to 203.80.97.255 | |
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2Cents
| Let's be real Alright, let's stop all the bickering. We all know which sites are used in spam, the url gives them away pretty easily. So to avoid stepping on all of your little girlie toes, let's just DDoS to the very obvious URLs. Ok, if it makes them register more docile or legit names, at least we made them work to change it and spend money doing it.
Also, most of the spam based websites are hosted through the same ISPs located in areas where there is no law enforcement for spamming.
As much as everyone points out that we leave our IP when sending a request to the spam sites, it is just as, if not more, easy to find out exactly where these sites are located. It would not be difficult to target these specific ISPs and make life difficult enough for them to stop hosting these a**holes!
Maybe this is not the best solution, but we have to take action against these people, as they are taking action against us!!!! | |
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Yup_itsme
@edin.blu
| Re: Lycos alive and well, apparently... I think some of the spammers which Lycos was targeting yesterday is actualy forwarding the request to www.makelovenotspam.com. Try this one and you'll see »www.getpaid2.com
That maybe explains why Makelovenotspam.com is overloaded, they are DDoS'ing themselves... | |
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jjc_mn
@204.73.x.x
| Re: Lycos alive and well, apparently... I love the fact that Spammers are redirecting the DNS to avoid getting the attacks. No profits today. Too bad. Lets keep it up.
To legitimate ISP's that get caught in the crossfire. Help the cause! Pass on the attack by pointing the DNS to another spam site. I'm sure you have a favorite spammer that's clogged your network.
Will somebody who has this program offer it as an attachment to a post. PLEASE! Or put it up on a website for all to grab. I want to be apart of this.
Time for talk and reason is over. It didn't work. New report out today shows spam hit the 94% mark last weekend. We new less talk and more action GOOOOOOOOO LYCOS! | |
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Goldnknob
@66.169.x.x
| I've uploaded the install file for makelovenotspam it's at my webspace file is called MLNS_screensaver_en.exe
»webpages.charter.net/jtepe/
I'v noticed the past day though that it won't connect when it kicks on... possibly doe to their site being down??? who knows... | |
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HAHAHAH
@ipowerweb.com
| We forwarded getpaid2.com to forward We forwarded getpaid2.com to forward to makelovenotspam.com and guess what, they are DDOS themselves. And guess what happens, They DDOS themselves, and guess what thier site is down. They are idiots attacking themselves. Oh by the way they state that thier software doesnt actually ddos and cause thier service to go down. But guess what, they are down because we decided to forward the ip of getpaid2.com to makelovenotspam.com's site.
Talk about pathetic. Tell makelovenotspam.com to studyDNSandstopmakinglove.com | |
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goldnknob
@ts46v-01.d | Re: We forwarded getpaid2.com to forward wow all you care about is yourself huh?.. not about the millions of others that get spam and HATE it... and DON'T WANT IT!!
there needs to be a anti spam list that is strictly followed, just like there is one for telemarketing.. | |
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queerDSL
join:2003-07-08
Vancouver, BC | Some ISPs blocking? I use Bell Sympatico and cannot access makelovenotspam.com; in addition, the screensaver can't seem to connect. But when I start my university VPN client from the same computer, it is able to see the website and the screensaver works. Hmmm. | |
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21FSN
@cable.rogers | Re: Some ISPs blocking? Can we do anything about this damn Rogers?????? | |
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@ipowerweb.com
| Makelovenotspam.com is stupid First of all the ddos spam sites, that are not the originating source of the spam email itself. They also explicitly state that thier service is not a DDOS attack. Um I beg to differ. A DDOS attack is a distributed denial of service, which thier software does by the way. getpaid2.com was hosted by us, along with several thousand other websites on the same server. Is it right for all other thousand web sites to be negatively effected by an attack from Lycos? No. If one person on your block is a thief, should everyone go to jail? If one country is evil, should we nuke all the surrounding countries as well?
If you think so, then obviously you are not thinking things through, which lycos blatantly has not thought things through.
We forwarded all hits to getpaid2.com to hit them directly and let them get a taste of thier own medicine. And look what happens. All of thier servers are DOWN. Pathetic. If i recall correctly, thier software does not cause the server to crash. Um it crashed thier site. dumb fucks | |
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Yup_itsme
@edin.blu
| Re: Makelovenotspam.com is stupid You might be right in the short-term. They didn't completely think their processes through but I am convinced that they will improve their systems. Besides this, I believe there are plenty of people that are willing to contribute not only to run the software but also to make donations to make this activity a success.
This is just the start and we'll see how it will develop in the coming months/years with or without Lycos because it has given sufficient food for thought for the people affected. | |
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OHOHO
| You dumb prick.
"Is it right for all other thousand web sites to be negatively effected by an attack from Lycos?"
YES!!!! Because they are hosting blatant spammer sites! Too bad for the innocent people, but they should find a more reputable ISP. Especially if they are one of "several thousand other websites on the same server." If my site was hosted with thousands of others one one server I would NOT be happy!!
BTW, I really do think you're a fucking genius. Forwarding the IP to Lycos. WOW, what a damn brain trust you must have over there. It's amazing that no REAL respectable company have hired you guys yet. You must be in great demand with such skills. Just think, you may even be qualified to flip bugers at McD's. But, I'm sure you would need just a bit of training before taking on such tasks. | |
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JJC_MN
@204.73.x.x
| We and all the news organizations have been had! A dns check of makelovenotspam.com points to a advertising company. It was all just an ad campaign by »corporate.starring.se/
I can only hope this inspires someone to really do it.  (( | |
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Happy Customer
@pivot.net
| We haven't been had, we have been serviced. The advert company actually added a usefulness to their solicitation. Through giving people a useful tool that actually WORKS, they are able to get their link to their other services attached and traffic through their site.
We would have been had if the service did not actually DO anything, but it does. So therefore, the price of seeing their little link to their service (which I chose to put on my PC and do NOT have to click) is a small price to pay to know that I am buggering the hell out of a large group of spammers. | |
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xan_user
join:2004-11-18
Windsor, CA
| hahahah My mom got 57 emails in one day from a so called "company" like the one you host. Does any one remember how long it takes to get 57 emails on 24 baud dialup ? yes she runs some of the best filters around. her isp is VERY proactve in anti spam, yet some times thing get through- I would call an hour to get email a DDOS.
HAHA,
Dump your offending "customer" tell lycos and spamcop. then we'll all promise to go spend money at your "Good" customers websites and post nice links on our home pages.
LOVE us don't SPAM us.:) | |
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mncr5
@cable.rogers | Lycos got those bstrds! Looking at the reaction of the spammers this is the first ever tool which worked all right
Just make it up and running again ASAP, please! | |
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PegasusX
@pacbell.n
| Just stop the arguments If you really feel that it is a DOS, then make a open source software similar to it and do the samething
And who cares if its DDOS, as long as it targets the bad guys, its cool
Also, I think that another way to combat spam is to setup domains to be spammed. Put out millions of fake emails that go to anti-spam people and they can use that to their advantage.
They have the capacity to send out emails, but do they have the capacity to send out 10Trillion emails? or more | |
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quickwillie
join:2004-11-28
Queen Creek, AZ
clubs:
| spammers quit whining If spam wasnt so god damn annoying and counterproductive this thing wouldnt be so popular. Spammers act like the victim who is just trying to send 1 or 2 discreet emails now and then. BULLSHIT this program dosent even start to even the tables. Spamming is a sneaky little practice and I am so glad to think that anyone who spams could be out of a job. I dont give a shit if it is a full DDOS attack, I wish it blew up the damn computer on the other end as well. The second i start listening to spammers for cues on ethical standards is the day that I get an inbox that is devoid of PORN DRUGS FAKE DIPLOMAS and other useless and "unethical" crap. There is legit advertising and then there is SPAMMING! If your in the business of delivering shit dont be surprised when someone returns the favor. | |
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ert345q
@cable.rogers
| Make Love Not Spam Yep:-(
San Jose Mercury News published the article that Lycos stopped the campaign.
That's too bad, however, from other hand it has just proved the effectiveness of this tool.
Have you ever seen those spammers so united when another "best - ever- anti-spam" filter or program hit the market? I do not think so.Which means that they are not effected and there is nothing to worry about. But as soon as they are hurt - wow! Bad guys good guys - everybody screams that the rights are effected. And what about the rights of those who are overloaded with stupid and dirty mails? Nobody cares. Yeah, money rules.
Let it be so. Just the hope remains something will happen some day. Rest In Peace Lycos - chicken. | |
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RyanIsTheRyan
@attbi.com | Re: Make Love Not Spam Wierd thing about this is the fact that as soon as The ScreenSavers air MakeLoveNotSpam.com , it gets shut down... lol i really wanted to get it.... | |
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Kill_spam
@interpacket.net
| Even if MakeLoveNotSpam disappears we can all still contribute stopping spammers by using SpamVampire. The source code can be easily modified to add your specific spammers and by running it from your PC you'll contribute to increase running costs them in exactly the same way as MakeLoveNotSpam!! | |
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Sad to see MLNS go
@me.us
| Re: Make Love Not Spam quote:
Even if MakeLoveNotSpam disappears we can all still contribute stopping spammers by using SpamVampire.
Until someone packages it and updates the list, like "no ad host", its wont generate enough 'power' to cause a problem. | |
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