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Comments on news posted 2004-11-07 12:37:22: A number of community sites have noticed something odd about the google image search function. images.Google.com thinks the Lyndie England does Not exist but Lycos disagrees. ..

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hailinfantry
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The Age of Yellow Journalism on BBR

I made my point yesterday. The stories are becoming more and more sensationalistic...why? Where is the voice of reason before ten thousand far-leftists start screaming conspiracy theory?

(I'm not in any direction, by the way).
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Re: The Age of Yellow Journalism on BBR

justin See Profile explained once that since this is a pro-consumer website the slant would definitely be to the left because the right is pro-business and just wants to screw the consumer (something like that). justin See Profile also said that there was nothing on this site that said everything would be 'fair and balanced'.
The AT&T backbone and Shaw P2P block are conspiracy theories because there hasn't been an answer that is acceptable. It doesn't mean that conspiracy theories are wrong, it just means the answer from the 'powers that be' is simply unacceptable.
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Mashiki
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Re: The Age of Yellow Journalism on BBR

What a shame...since the whole point of journalism is to know your facts and understand what's going on before you step onto the street/paper/site and start speaking.

In this point and with things like this, it drives the "credibility" of BBR down through the floor. Not only does this site operate as a business but as a "consumer activist" website. The whole point of being pro-consumer on the otherhand is to offer the points of "both" sides, pro & con differing points of view and allowing the individual reader to make the choice based on what they can figure out...not what they are told.

Once this site started the government/google/doing it's bidding/etc line it stepped over a "news/consumer" website into a rumor-monger site. If I want that I'll goto wonkette...
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yoonix
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Google commented

Google just commented on this on Slashdot: »yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid···10747654

Mashiki
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Re: Google commented

Yeah...just remember people are lazy. I'll copy and paste in full.

Hi All,

Sergey asked me to pass this on:

In short, There is no censorship here. We are embarassed that our image index is not updated as frequently as it should be. Expect a refresh in the near future.

In the meantime, you can just search on Google Web Search for [abu graib photos] [abu graib photos] [google.com] to get plenty of what you are looking for.

From me:

Please don't ascribe some dating issues on images to some political motive, we take this kind of stuff very seriously. We have to comply with the law, but there is no law yet on the books reguiring that companies in the United States take down pictures that might be embarassing ot the current administration.

Chris DiBona
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Another conspiracy theory busted. It's nice to know the right people in the right place.
mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
Darn.

Another anti-Bush dslreports and friends conspiracy theory comes crashing down.

DaDogs
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maximus_808
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You have got to be kidding me .........

Could this get anymore pathetic.
Is this going to go on for 4 years ... the conspiracy theory's against the President.
Good luck in your quest Justin.
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sjohnson

join:2001-02-28
Sioux Falls, SD
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Something else missing?

Is it just me or do Yahoo and Lycoris (generally) only show the thumbnails but the links to the off-site pictures are broken or link to home pages instead of the pictures? Only a very few of the 20 or so links I followed actually led to the picture represented by the thumbnail.

What else is going on here?

AdamB

join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH

Re: Something else missing?

I think Google caches most of the content they crawl and then it links it to the website that that image is displayed on.
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jeffyjeff777

join:2002-06-01
Collegedale, TN

Google image search

One bad thing about these image searches is that it makes it very easy for folks to rip off pictures from other people's websites and use them on their website, which is very rude, IMO. for those who have websites: please ask before you take some one else's image and slap it on your site or even hotlink to it!

Tony
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Natrona Heights, PA

With Moderate SafeSearch on, search for "chain"

Not safe!

sorne guy

@milwwi.ameritech

Did you turn off "safe search"?

»images.google.com/images?q=abu+g···e+Search

i saw all sorts of crazy dead bodies etc.

see the "preferences" next to the search window?

click it, scroll down and hit "do not filter my search results"

the lack of lyndie is pretty odd though

google has always played censor at the drop of a hat--filtering out kazaa lite and sites that hosted or deswcribed it, complying with china's censorship requests etc.

censorship to google is business as usual

BodyBumper

join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA

Re: Did you turn off "safe search"?

When I did a search earlier I didnt see those pics I wish I made a screenshot!!!!

PL11x15eq165

join:2002-07-05
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Well - WHAT IS THE REASON?

I've read all the postings here:

theories, theories ridiculed as conspiracy theories, etc...

So, everybody pretty much agrees that google's technologies are very good, their hardware is very capable.

We know that these images do exist and are indexed by many other crawlers.

We know that google has a preference setting that uses "No Filtering", returns images of "any size" or "any filetype" or "any color". You can choose to have images returned only from a particular site or domain, or ANY site or domain.

So, WTF IS GOING ON with google's image searches?????


...if you want a conspiracy theory, lets all start saying that some secret government ECHELON type system is doing a man-in-the-middle attack on all of us when we try to connect to google....

BodyBumper

join:2004-06-21
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Re: Well - WHAT IS THE REASON?

Google is used around the world and being an American company I'm quite sure they wouldn't want certain unsavoury aspects shown to the world.

T0rn
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Re: Well - WHAT IS THE REASON?

said by BodyBumper See Profile:

Google is used around the world and being an American company I'm quite sure they wouldn't want certain unsavoury aspects shown to the world.
I call bullshit. »images.google.com/images?hl=en&l···ler+bush

What about the millions of images that go against your reasoning?
underscore

join:2004-04-20
Fairfax, VA

I guess

It just sucks then
Fishie

join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA

Google = 1997 Excite

Well, I don't know the reason. It probably does have to do with the SafeSearch setting. One thing is for sure though, Google is going downhill. When I search for things, all I get are sites selling me things. It's like Excite in 1997.

drew
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Re: Google = 1997 Excite

Honestly, whenever I search for something on google that shouldn't come up with results about buying something, nothing comes up.

IMO, you just don't know how to "search" properly. Final Fantasy will return a lot about final fantasy and probably a lot of people trying to sell you stuff. Final Fantasy XI skillchain list is going to turn up several links in reference to skillchains and very few in reference to buying crap.

You need to "Learn internet".
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Re: Google = 1997 Excite


There is spyware that very subtly hijacks the first 2 or more Google results. It's insidious stuff.

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joebear29

join:2003-07-20
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I was wrong

I take back everything I charged before the election obout DSL Reports putting up Bush-bashing "news" articles to sway readership for the election.

It is obvious that the desire to Bush-bash (even if it is reduced to hinting at bizarre conspiracy theories) goes beyond the recent election.

BodyBumper

join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA

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Re: I was wrong

I'm sorry but if we cant be critical of a search engine for possibly censoring certain pictures because it might "hurt" the president should tell you that something is very wrong with certain factions in America.

T0rn
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Re: I was wrong

said by BodyBumper See Profile:

I'm sorry but if we cant be critical of a search engine for possibly censoring certain pictures because it might "hurt" the president should tell you that something is very wrong with certain factions in America.
I know this is cross posting, but it's the only way to make my point:

»images.google.com/images?q=hitle···N&tab=wi

Well, what do you have to say to that?
joebear29

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Of course you can be critical of Bush, or hint at inane conspiracy theories involving Bush and Google. Where did I say you cannot?

T0rn
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Pathetic

This "news" article is just pathetic.

insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

Google is pathetic

If they want to censor violent images they can do it with their safe filter. But when the filter is turned off you should get to see all the gore you want.

Spyder

join:2003-03-10
Thornhill, ON
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?

Abu Grabi gives one image on google.ca:
»home.earthlink.net/~platter/comm···-200.jpg

chRoniX10
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Pff..

Many people may claim that the image search sucks but anyways millions of people flock to google to search.
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jazzy_

join:2004-01-27
Charleston, SC

Pathetic

Get over yourselves with your conspiracy theories and bush-bashing rhetoric. It is obvious their image indexing system is not that hot. But they are definitely not censoring »www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&···re+photo otherwise it would be stupid as all can get to not censor the same thing from your main product.
mglunt

join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
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Are the pictures X rated?


I have no desire to go around digging for images of what a few soldiers decided in their sick mind what would be fun.

A possible explaination:

Weren't many of these photos X-Rated? Maybe Google is not indexing any of them because of fear they might accidentally show an X-Rated picture. With Google used by so many people, a kid could easily stumble across them.

I also notice that the beheadings, which are 1,000,000 times more of a crime than the Abu Graib pictures are also not there, or my first couple search tries didn't bring them up.

Augustus III
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Gainesville, GA

Re: Are the pictures X rated?

I don't use google. I hate google. Always have and always will. They are highly overrated and that is proven time after time.

ctceo
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Torture Pics.

It is unfortunate that events like this occur, but should we be making a point on google's indexing shortcomings using such a despicable act as the example. I think not. Taste was not considered when authoring this article.
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...

Also, it doesn't affect these particular search results mentioned in the story, but make sure you click "Preferences" at the top of the Google search page and go to the SafeSearch Filtering section. Change it to "Do not filter my search results" unless you have kids in the house. Otherwise you are going to think much more censorship is going on hehe.
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