COmon timeWARner
@aol.com | No worth it
not worth it yet i would rather hold on to my wire until match can match current speeds of 3 dl / 386 up. |
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akfullfo
join:2000-02-10
Dallas, TX
| wireless latency
So if Flash-OFDM has 30ms latency, anybody know what Verizon's EV-DO is like? I'm using their regular NationalAccess product and latency to the first hop averages around 500ms. For the work I do, remote access to servers via command line interfaces, latency is far more important than downstream bandwidth. 500ms is sufficient, but only just. Is EV-DO better than what I have? |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | EV-DO Is between 200-300ms if I remember correctly.... |
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Vonage User5
join:2004-05-15
Hillsborough, NC | reply to COmon timeWARner
Re: No worth it
Has anyone in the Raleigh Durham area used the nextel wireless, some input on pros and cons would be appreciated. |
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sharksfan3
Premium
join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
 ·Optimum Voice
 ·Optimum Online
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to akfullfo
Re: wireless latency
said by akfullfo  :
I'm using their regular NationalAccess product and latency to the first hop averages around 500ms. For the work I do, remote access to servers via command line interfaces, latency is far more important than downstream bandwidth. 500ms is sufficient, but only just.
I guess you wont be using voIP over that connection. Why is latency so high? |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | It's no different than the typical lag on a cell phone conversation. You don't typically notice it much unless you can hear the other end (i.e. call your land line, put it on speakerphone). |
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akfullfo
join:2000-02-10
Dallas, TX
| reply to sharksfan3
said by sharksfan3 :
I guess you wont be using voIP over that connection. Why is latency so high?
Actually 500ms is not too bad for VoIP, pretty much like regular calls via satellite. The problem with VoIP over NationalAccess is that I only get maybe 20kbps upstream and my VoIP software doesn't have a high-complexity codec (eg g.723), so there just isn't enough bandwidth. I'm using a Mac with a bluetooth connection to a Motorola 710 which is in my back pocket. If I want to talk to somebody, I have to disconnect and use the handset like God intended.
As for why the latency is so high, I'd be interested in knowing that myself. The lag is definitely between me and the first pingable router, so it is likely to be from somewhere in the wireless delivery network. |
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Pv8man999
@in.us | Who gives a shit about wireless
They should really be working on FIBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not cheap ass over-priced 500 down 100 up wi-fi |
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mishaq
Premium
join:2004-01-24
Richardson, TX
clubs: | It isn't wi-fi, its cellular internet. 500 kbps could be useful for those who need internet access outside in the field. Why does everyone just assume all broadband is made for the home user?
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Damn you FCC! |
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lestat99
join:2000-08-04
Piscataway, NJ
| Yes, Verizon's EVDO service is extremely valuable for me. I commute to NYC every day on the train ( 1hour each way) and get a ton of work done on my commute. It is worth every penny. Also have connectivity in airports and hotels when I travel. This also has saved me a ton of money versus dishing out $10/day in hotel rooms for Internet access.
People, this isn't to replace DSL or Cable for the home user it is for those that are mobile and need wireless connectivity in the field.
All in all, I am very happy with the service.
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Info Network Security:»www.packetdefense.com |
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president_me
@anvis.com
| reply to Pv8man999
Good info
Yep, Fiber all the way!
»news.com.com/Optical+networking+···=nl.e703
Get yours now.
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»finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=LNUX&t=5y
Be afraid, very very afraid.
»www.newnetworks.com/verizon%27s_···epor.htm
Fun stuff.
»www.hackaday.com/
»slashdot.com/
If you like my comments please make a contribution to the FreeNet
»freenet.sourceforge.net/
Or some good lawyers.
»eff.org/
-Steve, I am my own president, Paltzer |
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Estragon
join:2003-06-20
Greenville, NH
 ·Fairpoint Communic..
·MV Communications,..
| reply to Pv8man999
Re: Who gives a shit about wireless
said by Pv8man999:
They should really be working on FIBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not cheap ass over-priced 500 down 100 up wi-fi
Maybe they should be working on fiber, but it's going to take at least 20 years to roll it out. What should we use in the meantime?
Those of us in dialup hell would kill for 500 down 100 up. |
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Luker3
join:2004-10-09
Blacksburg, VA
| Yeah, I live far enought away that anything other than phone lines and power will run out here. Wireless connection would be fine with me. Now I also like to game so I'd LIKE to have something lower than 500ms, I get about 250-900 depending, and that is over 56k! (Good dial-up commpany, Shentel)
If anything like that was out here I'd get it, but yes truly ment for field use. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | You possibly could get 1xrtt CDMA or EDGE GSM connection, good for around 150kbps and approximately the same latency, but $$$ |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to lestat99
I currently use the aircards myself and I love them. I use sprint and Verizon for work , depending on the area. 15 k a sec down usually on the verizon network. And latency at about 400 ms.
Like you said its not a broadband replacement. But is invaluable when your mobile to be able to vpn to work and fix issues remotely while you are on the side of the road. I do it and leave them run almost all day 12 hours a day depending on where I am going. Not to mention the internal Im services to save on cellular minutes 
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to en102
1x and 1xrtt are cheap now if you purchase an agreement. I run about 40 megs a day over it on verizon and pay less then $75 a month. But I also have company phones threw verizon as well.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Cheap considering that they are mobile, pricy compared to dialup, dsl or cable. If I was mobile, and had 'good' connectivity at home, I'd be using a datacard or tethered phone. At home, my 26.95 dsl (1500/256) is cheap, and at work, my DS-3 (12 users) is damn fast
Your Throughput
Download = 39.762 Mbps
Upload = 11.194 Mbps
Your Throughput
Download = 39.066 Mbps
Upload = 14.981 Mbps
2004-10-12 19:20:58 EST: 19589 / 12723
Your download speed : 20060071 bps, or 19589 kbps.
A 2448.7 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 13029315 bps, or 12723 kbps.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| no speed tests around can handle my work connection hehe. The ones from the government do but they also don't allow us to run the test.
OC carrier.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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evdo9
join:2004-06-25
Cardiff By The Sea, CA
| Ok.. no more fighting on evdo vs. wifi... they are now compatible... or better said... complementary... you can now do evdo sharing over wifi using a small converter router...
»www.wireless-internet-broadband-service.com has them online...
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For Evdo NEW Coverage MAPS and Mac or Linux Drivers »evdo-coverage.com - Robert Kim, Verizon Agent #IMACS. Tech Docs »evdo-coverage.blogspot.com |
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wmiller
@198.70.x.x
| reply to BosstonesOwn
Hrmn, considering that wireless is the future of communications (look at cell phones) i'd be investing in wireless technology like intel instead of 'not giving a shit' like this short-sighted loser  |
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