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Comments on news posted 2004-09-27 10:40:59: There's some unsubstantiated rumbling in our BellSouth forum among self-proclaimed insiders about a slower-speed "Tinkerbell" tier currently in development. ..

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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO
Hmmmmmmmmm they are nuts

17.95 for 56K WTF are they Thinking?? And they call that DSL what a joke


IhatemyISP
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said by CO_Chris See Profile:
17.95 for 56K WTF are they Thinking?? And they call that DSL what a joke

No, that's $17.95 for the first 6 months of Ultra service.

Read next time.
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I changed it to avoid confusion.


jaa
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join:2000-06-13
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Dial-up alternative

Looks like an offering that has a market.

Modem (56k) speed, but is always on and does not use your phone line.

The alternative is a comparably priced dial-up ISP and a phone line.

For the low-end, extremely price-conscious market that won't move off dial-up, this could do it.
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ParanoiaInc

join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA

There is a market for this.

Imagine the headaches of analog dialup. First, the maximum you are going to get is around 53-Kbps provided you have a nice hardware modem and clean phone line. I doublt many are getting this, especially on average.

Now, imagine a 56-64 Kbps digital solution much like an ISDN line with the SLA, AND the ability to try much higher speeds from time to time.

Its like selling cigarettes to kids, and crack to ... crack addicts. And yes, broadband IS addictive and I am a broadband addict. Its a means to get rid of analog, and a means to encourage market growth in full broadband.


CO_Chris
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Broomfield, CO
reply to IhatemyISP
Re: Hmmmmmmmmm they are nuts

Oh Ok i read it fast sorry..For people on AOl this might get them to change them


Maxo
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reply to ParanoiaInc
Re: There is a market for this.

I've been supporting something like this for quite some time. A low-cost, low-speed, internet connection via DSL or cable technology to offer those who only use the internet a little but still don't want to tie up their phone lines. I hope these trials prove fruitful.
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MadDog3057
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join:2002-02-26
Miami, FL

Sounds familiar...

This reminds me of the days of winfire. They used to have a button on their toolbar called BOD (Bandwidth on Demand) and you would purchase it in chunks and it would up your speed to 1.5 Mbps for the time you had purchased.
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Rob
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Kendall, FL
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For those who can't afford "Real DSL"..

This is a great alternative choice at an affordable price. Sure, they get "dialup speeds", but they are 1) giving up a free line and 2) have a constant connection to the Internet. Not to mention that they get "boosts" when they need it (ie. download a large file, etc).
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DaveNJ
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56k is a bit too slow`

Granted this is marketed at the non power users. But i think a more realistic speed would be 128k down, 56k up
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA

Milking...

I don't know if I am the only person that see's it this way, but to me, it seems like they are just milking a dead horse. Why are we coming out with slower speed packages when we should be moving up and lowering the price of the current packages to that price. I think if the telco's and bells invested as much time as expanded as they do in milking the dead horse, we would all have faster access instead of slow 3 meg connections

ParanoiaInc

join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA

Maybe because costs for increase speed return a much smaller margin than migrating analog (dialup) users over to digital (near-broadband) users. How about the idea is to grow & market non-DSL users to getting faster DSL once migrated?

Personally, I would love to see the end of analog in telecommuications.

ParanoiaInc

join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA

reply to DaveNJ
Re: 56k is a bit too slow`

This would probably interfer with DSL Lite, no? And this is why I think its not meant necessarily as a slower DSL offering, but as a migration of analog to digital with similar performance, and the ability to instant-upgrade to the existing three tiers of service currently offered.

JPCass

join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO

Why just a "boost"?

My guess is that most dialup users don't use that much total bandwidth, anyway - I can't imagine that someone with 56k would likely download even as much as 1 mByte per month. Why not just have a tier of speed around 1 mbs, and cap it at 1 Mbit total per month with a surcharge for more? Is it somehow easier to do the tracking and billing for the "boosts"?

attsbcisgay

join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
Why not just lower their prices for lite to 14.95-19.95...
ultra = 24.95-29.95
extreme= 34.95-39.95?
Just a 10 dollar difference can really make everyeone happier!!!

Gramalkin

join:2004-03-22
Augusta, GA

DSL

They are lowering the price of the Ultra Package to 42.95 a month from the 49.95 package. I think that was effective today. They also have a new promotional offer of 15 bucks off a month for the first six months. Never liked the intro programs though, by the time the six months is up I have gotten used to the price and sometimes wonder where the sudden jump comes from.

bmn
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hiatus
Their website doesn't show the price drop on the Ultra package yet... It would be cool if the price is dropping...
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wuduck

join:2004-05-19
Decatur, TN
sounds great to me

As a tech in a semi-rural area. I meet lots of people who just don't use the net enough to warrant paying full price for DSL, or Cable. But they don't like their dial-up connection.
This would be a great alternative.

wuduck

join:2004-05-19
Decatur, TN
reply to technick
Re: Milking...

You're calling a 3Mb connection slow?
What would you call fast?

How many web sites/hosting companies are set up to send data to you at 3Mb, and can afford to send it to you that fast.
Microsoft is probably one of the few.

JPCass

join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO

reply to attsbcisgay
Re: Why just a "boost"?

said by attsbcisgay See Profile:
Why not just lower their prices
Well, knocking $5 or $10 off the price of each tier does reduce their revenue a lot! Competition and efficiency will ultimately result in some downward price pressure, though.

I think it does make sense to have an introductory tier for dial-up users who need a bit more, but not a lot. Also, this presumably applies to those using dial-up on their voice line - and who really can't be using that much bandwidth - as anyone who has a dedicated dial-up line can already save some money switching to a DSL solution that allows them to stop paying for an extra line.

Presumably the providers are hoping that some dial-up users will ultimately come want, and use, quite a bit more bandwidth. So it would seem like a better lead-in to higher service tiers, to offer a low bandwidth cap with a surcharge, than an cumbersome "boost" system. So I'd ask again, are there compelling technical or marketing reasons for the "boost" approach over just a very low introductory tier?
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