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| hopefully they won't suck
but this is politics... it's not even worth hoping 
well that little guy that looks like hairy potter did some cool things, maybe he'll get the nod. -- disclaimer: my opinions are my own, my employer is not responsible. |
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  JakCrow
join:2001-12-06 Palo Alto, CA | Don't think anything will get better with Kerry if he gets in. Both sides are in industry pockets, especially with the telcos. |
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| Bush was governor of Texas
SBC is based out of Texas and Verizon has a significant presence there. I can't imagine that a Democratic president can do any worse than Bush and his appointee Powell have. |
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  sporkme drop the crantini and move it, sister Premium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ | reply to odog Re: hopefully they won't suck
Any bets on who made him a job offer? Verizon? SBC? |
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1 edit | reply to Kerry is better Re: Bush was governor of Texas
And what exactly is the valid argument you're trying to make here? That simply because SBC is based out of Texas and that Verizon has a fairly big footprint there that, somehow, Bush is in their pocket? Good argument... except for those annoying little things called FACTS that you Democrats always love to leave out. |
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  Alpine Premium join:2000-01-11 Atlanta, GA
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said by JakCrow : Don't think anything will get better with Kerry if he gets in. Both sides are in industry pockets, especially with the telcos.
This one always cracks me up. The Telcos have all the politicians in their pockets, huh? I guess that's why the politicians passed things like the Telecom Act of 1996, which was ooooh-so-friendly to the telcos..
Common sense...
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I wish we could vote for chairman of the FCC... then maybe not everything would get censored. |
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| Can't give monopoly and ASK them to play nice!
Fact is deregulating a monopoly and asking them nicely to work out deals with their competitors is unprofessional at best. What kind of lawmakers do something that open ended? What kind of law is that? Wait it's not even a law. It's a request.
Deregulating a monopoly means ALLOWING monopolistic behavior. It was already hard enough to get them to honor the law. What do you think will happen now that they are not required to honor any kind of deal?
I am not a democrat. But Kerry can't be any worse than Bush and Powell have been for broadband. |
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| reply to Alpine Re: hopefully they won't suck
said by Alpine :
This one always cracks me up. The Telcos have all the politicians in their pockets, huh? I guess that's why the politicians passed things like the Telecom Act of 1996, which was ooooh-so-friendly to the telcos..
Common sense...
Adam
I dunno, the Telco 1996 sounded bad for telcos, and claimed that would provide for more competition. But it is now 2004, and Verizon is still my only choice for local telco service. I can find a couple DSL orivders that have to lease lines and rack space from Verizon a (more $$ for Verizon). So uing common sense, I'd say you were wrong and that the Telcos got a lot of restriction a loopholes into the 1996 telco act to save their sorry asses from competition, and they are working their butts off to squash voip, cable or anythign else that might threaten their fiefdom. I'd also say Powell has done a reasonable job at promoting technology, and trying to foster voip growth. |
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  Mactron el camino Real Premium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv
| reply to sporkme said by sporkme : Any bets on who made him a job offer? Verizon? SBC?
Probably the BPL Providers.;) He has been their biggest cheerleader. Sorry, I won't miss him.  -- Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Aldous Huxley |
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  JakCrow
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| reply to Alpine said by Alpine : said by JakCrow : Don't think anything will get better with Kerry if he gets in. Both sides are in industry pockets, especially with the telcos.
This one always cracks me up. The Telcos have all the politicians in their pockets, huh? I guess that's why the politicians passed things like the Telecom Act of 1996, which was ooooh-so-friendly to the telcos..
You mean the legislation of deregulation that was crafted with the telcos' input, lobbying from their biggest business customers, the desire of the local bells to break into the then-lucrative long distance market, and which also allowed the regional bells to gobble each other up to become bloated industry "players"? At what point did you get lost?
Common sense...
...shows that things are quite different today than they were in '96. |
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  slashman Don't do it . .. Premium join:2003-10-01 Batavia, IL 1 edit | Who is president is insignificant
Good Legislation or bad lobbying start and end in the Congress.
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President elect Senator Kerry anounces his choice for FCC Chairman.....and you thought it couldn't get worse. -- »www.gobpl.com |
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Its not the FCC's problem that you can't get another provider. its the CLECs they have not requested to resell or build their own network.
Yes i don't care for the LECs but if you do not have another company wanting to provide service than your stuck with the services you get from VZ.
Check your Excel.com, Sage.com, and MCI.com those providers offer service in many VZ and SBC areas. Also check out IDT.net . they are now in the local business as well besides long distance. |
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  Kerry is better
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I have to disagree. The FCC chairman is a direct appointee of the president. Partisan politics at it's best! |
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  kabhal Premium join:2002-02-05 Oklahoma City, OK | reply to MrShoop Re: hopefully they won't suck
Yeah at least the cable companies are on the side of the little guy.  |
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  calvoiper
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| reply to JakCrow Yes, the telcos lauded TA'96 in press releases--but then removed those press releases from their websites when they challenged parts of the law in court.
Reed Hundt was the last "real" chair at the FCC. An experienced antitrust lawyer, he wrote original rules for TA'96 that the RBOCs hated. (You might expect that from someone who had experience with monopolies.)
Anyway, the RBOCs bought the Lincoln Bedroom or its equivalent, and Clinton shoved Hundt out. Hundt wrote a book about it--the best source.
Calvoiper -- VoIP--the death knell of remaining voice monopolies! |
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  Topmounter Sent By Grocery Clerks
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Now that is funny! |
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  JakCrow
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| reply to calvoiper Re: hopefully they won't suck
Such is the way of all these "deregulation" plans. The industry players involved praise these plans in public, while dragging their feet and trying to sue their way out of them in the background, instead of actually meeting their obligations for deregulation and reaping the rewards they could have gotten in the first place.
Deregulation is always pushed by industry special interests, where competing in the free market has no place in their plans, and the individual consumer is an afterthought. |
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"Mr. Powell, a Republican, was nominated by President William J. Clinton on July 31, 1997, and confirmed by the United States Senate on October 28, 1997."
Chairman is nothing but a glorified position on the FCC board. He may have been appointed the Chairman of the FCC by President Bush, but he was placed on the FCC board by President Clinton. So what was it you were saying about partisan politics?
And you really should take an economics class so you can figure out what the real point of deregulation is.
P.S. - Stop hiding behind your anonymous posts. |
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