Omega
Displaced Ohioan
Premium
join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
clubs:  | sure...
Just like the index service only happens when you are away from the PC.
I prefer to download my updates manually and at my choice.
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | Chicken or Egg?
This is somewhat of an ironic twist, as it is largely believed that "broadband" subscribers, with "always on" connections, are the one's that need the updates the most. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Time to Partner up.
Its time to partner with MSN. |
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ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
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I would consider it a switching point. Considering SP2 is nearly 300MB, it would take me 30 hours to download it (assuming I average 2-3 kB/sec on my 28.8k).
But...once again, there are no broadband options in my town (that will reach me). Sigh. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | A switching point from Dial-up or from the OS? you are not required to download SP2 but you also will still have a lot of unprotected holes that were fixed that they found.
It took me about 30minutes on a 3.0 RR cable connection |
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ryanthadude2
Blah
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
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said by ced06  :
But...once again, there are no broadband options in my town (that will reach me). Sigh.
That's the fact of life for a lot of us. I ended up moving to a smaller town just to be able to get cable, and luckily it's been pretty bulletproof so far (knocks on wood).
Just find it frustrating that dialup users still have the majority of connections, but every thing's seems like it's going broadband. Don't ya just get the feeling that if you don't have broadband, you're in the dark ages? |
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs: | reply to ced06
No, that's just the network install of SP2 for IT professionals. MS estimates that the express install only needs to download 80-90MB.
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i386
Unix God
Premium
join:2004-07-10
Tucson, AZ | Dial-Up Connections
If you can't get broadband, why don't you upgrade to 115k maybe? www.pivot.net offers 115k I believe, and many companies (NetZero for example) offer 56k.
When searching for a dial-up ISP, AVOID AOL!!!! |
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ryanthadude2
Blah
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
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Re: _
said by Rhobite :
No, that's just the network install of SP2 for IT professionals. MS estimates that the express install only needs to download 80-90MB.
Still, 80-90MB takes quite a while for people without broadband. There is quite a few people who wouldn't even give it a thought to download. |
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CorruptError
E R R O R
join:2004-05-03
Mississauga, ON
clubs: | reply to i386
Re: Dial-Up Connections
AVOID? If AOL was the only ISP provider in my area, i still wouldn't take them on, because it would be a non-existent connection. AOL is just UNBEARABLE.
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
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Re: _
said by ryanthadude2 :
said by Rhobite :
No, that's just the network install of SP2 for IT professionals. MS estimates that the express install only needs to download 80-90MB.
Still, 80-90MB takes quite a while for people without broadband. There is quite a few people who wouldn't even give it a thought to download.
Well, with Microsoft's "trickle" update it would come down over the course of a number of hours. The user isn't really affected by the download, it happens in the background. So after 12 hours or so of being connected to the Internet, the service pack is ready to install. Pretty neat, IMO.
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Yah thats one good thing about that. But how many people on Dial-up can keep connections for long periods of time anyway.
Even without being connected for the full 12hours it still is a long time for a dial-up user. |
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scareg
join:2003-10-27
Walla Walla, WA | reply to i386
Re: Dial-Up Connections
what is 115k? |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
| reply to Omega
Re: sure...
said by Omega :
Just like the index service only happens when you are away from the PC.
I prefer to download my updates manually and at my choice.
Who cares how you like to download your updates. Most people will follow what Microsoft says, and have auto updates turned on. This will force some people to move to broadband when they see that it takes a long time on dialup. I don't think it will be massive, but there will definitely be people migrating because of this and because the internet is moving steadily away from dialup and to broadband.
-Tzale |
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LoneGreyWolf
Premium
join:2002-09-09
Bath, NY
clubs:
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Re: Dial-Up Connections
"If you can't get broadband, why don't you upgrade to 115k maybe? www.pivot.net offers 115k I believe, and many companies (NetZero for example) offer 56k."
I hope you realize that ISDN isn't available to everyone either just as Broadband isn't available to everyone. Both options are unavailable in my area. All companies as far as I know offer 56k these days, but just because they offer doesn't mean we can get. I am 10 miles from my C/O, but 1 1/2 miles from the R/T. I am on a pair gain line and slick so best I can get is 28k. Somone mentioned above that the internet is moving steadily away from Dial-up and moving towards broadband... well that's a bit optimistic I think. Dial-up isn't going anywhere any time soon because there are those of us that still can't get broadband and won't see broadband for a very very long time. |
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs: | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: _
If you disconnect it resumes where it left off. You could download it over the course of a few days or even weeks.
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Yes but with Microsoft who says there won't be another one then.
even though they have said less updates. |
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ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
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Ok, sorry. 80-90MB still takes me 8-10 hours to download. It becomes a real pain in the ass when you have to leave your computer on overnight for days and days just to install a security update. In all truth, dialup truely is WORTHLESS.
And yes, I can compare dialup to living in the dark ages. Anything outside instant messenging and browsing slimmed down websites is not worth it (no streaming video/audio, no online games, no flash based games/webpages, no VOIP...it just sucks ass).
Thank god I'll be moving out in 3 years. |
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ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA | reply to LoneGreyWolf
Re: Dial-Up Connections
I think he is referring to shotgunned dialup modems, which is tenfold worse then dialup (imagine dialup...but then make it twice as unstable). |
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