Dennis
Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL | YAY!
Now I can finally leave my Faraday Cage.
Beware the Daystar! |
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY | OR....
...you can spend the money on a skilled IT tech to secure your network. Your choice. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
 ·XMission
| BAE ?
Hope this works better than the latest thing we are working on that came from them.
But it is a good concept, and if it is truly frequency selective that would be good for many places.
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I am not lost, I find myself every time. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Wep?
Why not just... you know... enable the WEP? |
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Neil
Stop All The Downloadin
join:2003-08-20
New York, NY | Why bother, when it's so much easier for some people to just get new wallpaper? |
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mooty
join:2001-01-28
Riverdale, GA | I like it like THAT !
eh, do they have it in plad design ? When will it be available at Lowe's or Home Depot ? |
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Dennis
Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL
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| reply to bogey780
Re: Wep?
WEP is not bullet proof, and can be broken. The best way to secure a network from attack is to limit the access physically.
If they can't get a signal, then they can't break the WEP, spoof a MAC, or any other such nasties.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement. |
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
 ·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | I've always wanted to paper my bay window ....
Of all the hairbrained products ...
Anyone with data worth going to these lengths wouldn't be on wireless anyway. And, dslknowitall, praytell what's wrong with properly implemented WEP? Am I to believe that someone's gonna (1)install an undetected keylogger on my laptop, (2)sit around on my front porch (again, undetected) until I happen to, (3)logon (and they happen to successfully trap it), and (4)ditto my MACaddy - then they spoof that on their system, and (5)they logon to my network as me without setting off any alarms (did I forget anything?), and finally (6): steal my astoundingly good concerts collection? The same bad porn they already have? And -no! no!nooo! NOT the credit card number!!
It would be much easier to knock on my door and request an FTP account for the music (granted to all comers for the price of a good beer - in a growler if you want the infringing stuff) and dig through my trash for the CC#. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs: | reply to bogey780
Re: Wep?
Because people are scared of "messing with settings"... PFFT...
They scare me. |
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bmn
? ? ?
Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| If that paper stopped cell phone signals...
I'd be all over it... First thing I would paper is the classrooms where I have classes. We can't have a single day go by with out a student interrupting the lecture for a call.
As for it blocking Wi-Fi... Considering most people want access in more than one room, how is it suppose to help ? The only way this could be useful is you only want wireless in ONE room (in which case, just run wires) and that room has NO windows...
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g3ddylee
join:2002-12-09
Lincoln Park, NJ | Prices?
Yes, and how many hundreds of dollars will each panel cost?  |
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Rhobite
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA
clubs:
| reply to jap
Re: I've always wanted to paper my bay window ....
Because WEP is always insecure. True it's better than nothing, but anyone can sniff a bunch of WEP traffic and figure out the key. WEP doesn't protect you frm a determined attacker.
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
 ·Teliax VOIP
 ·WestPAnet Inc.
·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
| reply to Rogue Wolf
Re: OR....
Well, you can try and try but even the best admin can have trouble securing a wireless network.
Enable WEP and someone can still listen and grab the key (or keys). Enable MAC filtering and someone can capture the valid ones and use those. Don't enable DHCP, that can be figured out too.
If you have some stuff to risk do not use wireless networks and guard your wired one. |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Don't forget about the floor.
It's an interesting idea, but I don't see the market. The real paranoids aren't going to be using wireless in any case, and the less-paranoid aren't going to pay the price. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
| reply to RayW
Re: BAE ?
It'll probably impede phone at 2.4Ghz as well...
This is so stupid, nobody is going to use it, it'll do nothing, people will remain insecure.
Sheesh, use a directional antenna and adjust the power output for crying out loud...
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| Actually, if it worked I could see my workplace maybe using it. Cells are banned for security reasons, so if it does kill them, so what?.
And Directional antennas are fine, but what about where the beam is pointed? and the side lobes? Mobile devices can not have a beam antenna, otherwise you can not have a truly mobile device what with fiddling around with the pointing instead of walking and working.
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to Rhobite
Re: I've always wanted to paper my bay window ....
said by Rhobite  :
Because WEP is always insecure. True it's better than nothing, but anyone can sniff a bunch of WEP traffic and figure out the key. WEP doesn't protect you frm a determined attacker.
Shit. I was *so* wrong & I stand corrected. Big apologies to dslknowitall: I bow down and grovel for your forgiveness. And thanks to Rhobite for the clue. I was totally foot-in-mouth with my snide (1)-(5) hypothetical of what's required to break-in ... especially on 802.11x APs that pre-date mid-2003 (like mine) which is when manufacturers began to ship better key handling. There are no shortage of googlable whitepapers on the topic, but this Rutgers HowTo is an easy read & decent intro & over here is a 2yr old paper but well writ & delves into details.
Again, my bad for believing the claims on my Nortel AP. The industry screwed up big time on the WEP key management and then again on loose keygen tolerances for WPA.
Edit: All of which still leaves this wallpaper product looking equally silly, but I learned a thing or two about wifi security.  |
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AnonFromCT
@snet.ne | It will never work
Didn't the company think about windows, floors and ceilings. I don't think covering up your walls is going to help. I would recommend placing a big wire mesh around the building. |
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docutrade
Premium
join:2004-06-08
San Jose, CA |  reply to Nerdtalker
Re: BAE ?
Cat 5 has this handy feature built right in. |
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Mark Rejhon
join:2004-02-02
Ottawa, ON
·Magma Communications
| reply to AnonFromCT
Re: It will never work
Sometimes you need to even make the existence of a wireless network, a complete secret.
You can still detect encrypted networks, because a computer scanner can detect WiFi-style noise on the 2.4 Ghz band. But if you want radio silence outside a building... |
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