ObdH
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join:2003-06-11 | tsk
not without endless bitching from the telcos..
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shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
| NOw, now. All Bell Canada wants is unregulated access to the latest technology, just like everyone else. It's called a level playing field. Let competition shake out the winners and losers. Not regulation. The companies with the best VoIP service at the best price will win. It's that simple.
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BMX
@magma.ca | As a giant, Bell Canada has way more resources (financial, etc.) to be a winner in the field. Regulating Bell Canada and not other companies would be fair competition-wise, so that smaller players get a chance to get into the market. |
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shaner
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join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
1 edit | Please. They've already got a head start. Bell Canada is still maybe a year to year and a half away from offering residential VoIP service. Vonage, Primus and some others are already selling theirs. Besides, the CRTC doesn't regulate Broadband ISP pricing, and there's tons of smaller DSL companies around.
Oh, and the main reason why Bell Canada wants VoIP in such a bad way is to take on Telus out west. In Ontario and Quebec, VoIP will be part of the strategy, but VDSL will be the main focus because of all the copper in the ground. |
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rewket
Premium
join:2003-08-21
Longueuil, QC | reply to BMX
listen.
if smaller companies are better, they will WIN even if bell isnt regulated
if they're even or worse they wont so why would we need shitty companies or clones?
let the best win. |
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| said by rewket  :
listen.
if smaller companies are better, they will WIN even if bell isnt regulated
if they're even or worse they wont so why would we need shitty companies or clones?
let the best win.
Bell Canada is scared they won't be able to corner the market and not have the option to charge ridiculous amounts for long distance..
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shaner
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join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB | What are you talking about?
$5/month for 1000 anytime Canada/US long distance minutes is ridiculous? |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
1 edit | This is the reason why Bell created this 5$ plan, your company is falling, and fast. If they ask to get VoIP unregulated it's because they KNOW it's better for them. Bell is trying (just trying) to react in a changing market it cannot handle anymore.
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shaner
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join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
| Nice try.
How about looking at the 2 year chart instead of the 6 month one. BCE's price is levelling off to where it normally is.
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| reply to shaner
said by shaner :
What are you talking about?
$5/month for 1000 anytime Canada/US long distance minutes is ridiculous?
Where are you getting this? They dont have any such plans on their website..
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MacGyver
Bell Sucks
Premium,ExMod 2003-05
join:2001-10-14
Orleans, ON | Not yet, but here is some inside info: »New HSE/LD bundle (sort of) |
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| Well thats bundle prices.. So that has nothing to do with people who use a diff wireless carrier,diff Sat or Cable provider or inet provider.. Also ITS NOT VOIP!
So like I said, their long distance prices are outrageous. and if Bell had their way, they would attempt to put all the VOIP providers out of business then charge a arm and a leg to people who dont want their crappy inet or sat services..
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs:
1 edit | reply to rewket
said by rewket :
listen.
if smaller companies are better, they will WIN even if bell isnt regulated
if they're even or worse they wont so why would we need shitty companies or clones?
let the best win.
Hello.
Airlines?
Its too bad we all don't get the government supplied safety nets available to some. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
| Bell afraid of VOIP for now
It's interesting to see the latest Bell commercials on TV. They feature people with their power going out and the phone ringing, then they say "Bell has always been the relable life line"
This is still true for the time being because you have no phone if the power goes out and you have VOIP.
Now, if Bell offers VOIP, they're going to have to offer the same type of reliablility which the smaller(Vonage etc) can't possibly do because they don't own the lines. |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
| reply to shaner
Re: tsk
Well, if in 2 years there's no gains there's a problem...plus, Dotcom/Nortel crash is far now. See how Telus is right now.
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shaner
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join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
| reply to lazarus_
said by lazarus_ :
Well thats bundle prices.. So that has nothing to do with people who use a diff wireless carrier,diff Sat or Cable provider or inet provider.. Also ITS NOT VOIP!
So like I said, their long distance prices are outrageous. and if Bell had their way, they would attempt to put all the VOIP providers out of business then charge a arm and a leg to people who dont want their crappy inet or sat services..
And how many alternative long distance providors are there? Tons. Has Bell put all those guys out of business? Nope. Are long distance prices regulated? Nope. Thank you for proving my point. The CRTC should stay the hell out of it and let the men seperate from the boys.
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andreo
join:2001-03-30
Des Moines, IA
| reply to yabos
Re: Bell afraid of VOIP for now
my power can go out (and has on a couple of occasions) and I can use my VOIP just fine. My battery backup can last a couple of hours supplying power to my TA and Router. I may also hit the Audiotron and listen to some internet radio while I'm yakking on the phone also... |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to yabos
That works if you have a UPS, but not many people do. I guess it also depends on whether or not you have cable or DSL and if your cable company has backup power for the cable internet, or if the phone company has backup for the DSLAM. |
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
| reply to shaner
Re: tsk
Your not even talking about the same thing.. Sure there will always be tons of VOIP providers. Problem is its not just about price deregulation (or whatever they are complaining about now). Bell wants to be treated like a small fry when they arent.(they own major backbones) If Bell gets deregulated, later on down the road when everyone uses VOIP, Bell could fix their routers to give a lower priority or worse piority to packets from other VOIP companies possibly resulting in what appears to be poor service from the customers point of view. This could result in a loss of customers for that company if they decide to go to bell who promises better QOS for the same or cheaper price..
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shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
1 edit | Really.
Does that happen with LD and internet? No and no. Other companies use Bell's backbone for both of those services and seem to flouish just fine.
Oh, and BTW, Bell is only objecting to price regulation by the CRTC. They want the CRTC to still come up with and enforce QOS rules and standards so that everyone plays on the same field. |
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