B
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| 50% Failure?
First, I'm impressed by how fast »gmail.prattboy.net/ loads, especially considering the publicity.
Second, what's with the 40-50% GMail spam filter accuracy rating?
Perhaps it's because he's purposely stuffing it with spam and little ham, but 50% is just abysmal performance for ANY spam filter...
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DaMaGeINC
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Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?
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KeepOnRockin
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| said by DaMaGeINC  :
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?
Yeah, 1 email msg is like 2k. However, email messages with attachments can be over 10 megabytes.
I'm sure people will utilize the space they were given in gmail to send attachments back and forth. |
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Sarah
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Cambridge, MA
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said by DaMaGeINC :
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space. 1 email msg is like 2k, from a friend. Hi, bye, write back, is about all. After you read that, you delete it and move on. So whats the point of 1gig?
Some people transfer many large files via e-mail, and like to keep copies of everything. I do this at work so when someone calls up and complains, I can go back 2 months and verify who said what and when about which file.
I have over a gig of stored e-mails on my work PC.
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quanta
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said by DaMaGeINC :
Gmail is another stupid product of the internet. 1gig of email. What a waste of space.
It's not the 1gig that is the primary feature of GMail - it's how they've designed the mail threads to appear as "conversations". Essentially, the 1GB is just to augment the ability to use the GMail box as a life recorder - essentially a lifetime storage of all your Internet correspondence.
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X_Digit
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| No thanks...
I hope their spam filter is as well-off as they claim, because you know DAMNED well that spammers will take advantage of the 1GB cap!
Could you imagine opening your e-mail box and seeing 30000+ messages of spam (with legitimate messages sprawled out in-between the spam... leaving you to sort them out one by one). No thanks... |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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Re: Stupid
I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it? |
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LrdVader
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join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| reply to quanta
said by quanta :
Essentially, the 1GB is just to augment the ability to use the GMail box as a life recorder - essentially a lifetime storage of all your Internet correspondence.
Unfortunately, that means Google is recording your life. Not a good thing in my book. |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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clubs: | I guess this is for some people and not others. |
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Sarah
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Cambridge, MA
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| reply to DaMaGeINC
said by DaMaGeINC :
I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it?
We offer web and FTP uploads/downloads, and we accept zip disks and CD-R, but for most idiots clients, it's simpler to attach it to an e-mail, so that's what they do. And I end up with many megs in my inbox. Shrug.
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xmrocks
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| reply to KeepOnRockin
FYI from GMail's help page (which you won't be able to see if you don't have a GMail account:
said by GMail Help and FAQ's:
What's the maximum message size limit?
Answer:
You can send and receive messages up to 10 megabytes (MB) total. Any message that exceeds this limit will not be delivered to your inbox and will be returned to the sender. If you attempt to send an email that exceeds this limit, you will get an error message and your email will not be sent.
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T0rn
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join:2001-05-11
USA | Archive Yourself Maybe?
I'm sure everyone has a gigabyte to spare on their local harddrive nowadays... |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| reply to DaMaGeINC
Re: Stupid
Because most Internet inhabitants are lazy bastards. Durr hurr hurr, let's send this screen saver I found on some back-water website to all members of the company! Hurr hurr!
Reminds me of an employee at Best Internet shortly before my employment there. Apparently he came across some Win32 application called "BRAINTEST.EXE", and after playing with it, decided it would be intelligent to send it as an attachment to all the members of the company. If I remember correctly, the executable was about 3MBytes.
The end result is that he managed to crash the internal SMTP server intended for employee mail -- the disks filled, and (at the time) sendmail wasn't very nice about handling out-of-disk errors.
After the SAs figured out what the hell was going on and proceeded to empty out the queue, only one employee responded to the Email. All he said was:
"Looks like someone failed the test..."
There's a reason all SMTP servers let administrators configure what the maximum permitted MIME attachment size is, you know. And there's a reason administrators are continually DECREASING that maximum.
Like you, I too think Gmail is worthless. It's going to become spammer central, especially with disk space like that. Think of all the space spammers will have for bouncebacks. That's all spammers use Hotmail for, by the way. It's all automated...
Google's just trying to start a fight with Microsoft over services like Hotmail. I don't deny Google could do a better job (and I've WORKED at Hotmail!), but in lieu of all of Google's recent TOS changes and how anti-privacy they've become, I can safely say I really want nothing to do with Gmail.
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insomx
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Canada
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| reply to DaMaGeINC
Ever think this Aaron guy could be just doing this to collect e-mail addresses to send OUT spam? Im not sending anything to contribute!
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zemus
join:2001-01-13
Brooklyn, NY
| 1 gig not email
I have 11000 emails. some with huge attachments. ignore the attachments, even with just plain text emails average 50k to 150k. depending on if it is html enabled and also reply history. i don't know about you guys but i reply with included text so I do not have to go hunting for the previous emails. after 10 or 20 replies it gets quite large. in any case I have email dating back to 1999. are they useful? some are some are not. you be amazed when you need to find an old email or serial key. or pwd. |
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vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
| reply to koitsu
Re: Stupid
said by koitsu :
After the SAs figured out what the hell was going on and proceeded to empty out the queue, only one employee responded to the Email. All he said was:
"Looks like someone failed the test..."
There's a reason all SMTP servers let administrators configure what the maximum permitted MIME attachment size is, you know. And there's a reason administrators are continually DECREASING that maximum.
Liek you said thats the fault of the administration. You are supposed to set those limits for a reason. Also number of recipents etc.etc.
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LrdVader
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join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| reply to insomx
said by insomx :
Ever think this Aaron guy could be just doing this to collect e-mail addresses to send OUT spam? Im not sending anything to contribute!
I think the idea is to get people to spread the address around so it picks up actual spam, rather than sending it junk themselves. |
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Samwoo
join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | reply to B
Re: 50% Failure?
wait what does he consider spam?
if i send him 5 emails that contain gibberish i bet gmail won't filter it.
i mean if people are sending him gibberish and random emails i bet that gmail cant filter it... |
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pcdebb
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join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
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| reply to DaMaGeINC
Re: Stupid
said by DaMaGeINC :
I dont get it, thier are so MANY better ways to transfer files. Email is the slowest in my book, so why use it?
the casual user may not know other ways of transferring files (i.e. the n00b friend i have who likes to send huge files via email, this would be perfect for him) |
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some people have more than one friend... |
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