davidcb13
join:2004-02-06
Branchville, NJ | Hopefully not
Hopefully in a few years we wont need to look to the last resort satellite broadband |
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gpancner
join:2001-09-27
Nine Mile Falls, WA | Stick with Video
Maybe they should stick to providing video. Use the new satellites for more local programming. They always say they don't have enough satellite capacity to provide all of our local channels. |
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ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
| Latency, Speeds, FAP bucket?
Will the new system have low bearable latency (150ms or less for gamers), good speeds (1.5 Mb/256Kb), and a non-existant FAP bucket (or atleast something better like 400MB/3 hours)?
Or is this going to be the same worthless crap we're all accustomed to..slow speeds, horrible latency, and a crappy download cap...but for a higher price? |
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Red Baron
Premium,ExMod 2001-05
join:2001-08-04
41.3N, 87.1W | If they are in geosync orbit, the latency is a given. You need LEO sats for lower ping times.
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davidcb13
join:2004-02-06
Branchville, NJ | reply to ced06
I dont think theres too much they can do about latency i mean it is a far distance. |
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GNXPower
Got Boost?
Premium
join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA | Use the capacity
for HD locals. Satellite BB is worthless.
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JonR800
Premium
join:2003-08-06
Farmington, MI | reply to davidcb13
Re: Latency, Speeds, FAP bucket?
They could be launching something like iridium. They mention 2 way video conferencing but give no mention of latency. :-\ |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
 ·AT&T Midwest
 ·Comcast
|  Before we start drawing conclusions...
Does anyone know more about this Spaceway system? Does anyone know the technology behind it? What makes it better? Any bandwidth tests? Ping times? Any articles on this system?
If not, then we are just assuming we know all the facts.
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Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal |
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gatchel
join:2000-11-28
16465 | Here Here |
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost | reply to Nightfall
I'm hoping that Spaceway is never used for broadband, and is just used for HD LIL programming. You can find all the specs here. |
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Geminimind
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Sacramento, CA |  Stick to satellite television
Please stick to satellite tv. Satellite internet is so expensive it's rediculous and you don't get anywhere near the bandwidth or dsl or cable. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Yea, but satellite would be available everywhere
Over most of the geographic area of the U.S., neither cable nor DSL are available.
They can't do anything about ping times, but they need to increase upload times over what's available now through DirecWay to make it a useful service. It's no better than dial-up now. |
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Rfsjr2
Shop on Top
Premium
join:2001-08-11
Ferndale, WA
clubs:
| Re: Yea, but satellite would be available everywhe
said by PDXPLT  :
It's no better than dial-up now.
Yeah, Right...
2004-05-29 14:20:36 EST: 1487 / 44
Your download speed : 1523584 bps, or 1487 kbps.
A 185.9 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 45698 bps, or 44 kbps.
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| said by Rfsjr2 :
Your upload speed : 45698 bps, or 44 kbps.
I meant upload isn't any better than dial-up. It takes just as long to send a 1 MB email with satellite as with dial-up. VPN's isn't supposed to work well, either. So using it for staying in touch with the office isn't that great. That being the case, it's hard for me to justify the high price for the service. |
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techie
Premium
join:2003-06-18
Canada
clubs:
·Cogeco Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to PDXPLT
Re: Yea, but satellite would be available everywhere
said by PDXPLT :
Over most of the geographic area of the U.S., neither cable nor DSL are available.
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alltel please increa
| reply to Nightfall
Re: Before we start drawing conclusions...
The follow from space way site; »www.hns.com/default.asp?CurrentP···view.htm
High speeds, small dishes
The high-powered SPACEWAY satellite will enable very high speeds in both directions while using compact, cost-efficient terminals. SPACEWAY will provide a variety of service options to meet every need — with upload speeds as high as 16Mbps and downloads as fast as 50Mbps. |
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Rfsjr2
Shop on Top
Premium
join:2001-08-11
Ferndale, WA
clubs:
| reply to PDXPLT
Re: Yea, but satellite would be available everywhe
said by PDXPLT :
I meant upload isn't any better than dial-up.
You are correct. Uploads do suck. 
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Sat_Man
Monotonous Isn't It
Premium
join:2001-09-14
Gray Court, SC
| said by Rfsjr2 :
said by PDXPLT :
I meant upload isn't any better than dial-up.
You are correct. Uploads do suck.
I'll be happy if the only thing Spaceway does is improve the upload speed!
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Rfsjr2
Shop on Top
Premium
join:2001-08-11
Ferndale, WA
clubs:
| reply to Jeremy341
Re: Before we start drawing conclusions...
said by Jeremy341 :
I'm hoping that Spaceway is never used for broadband
Don't worry, I doubt it ever will be used for anything other than video conferencing by large corporations. That was/is the original focus of the Spaceway technology.
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macmouse
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Saratoga, CA
| reply to davidcb13
Re: Latency, Speeds, FAP bucket?
LEO (Low Earth orbit) is considerably closer to the ether then geosync. Like, 4-5X less. So, less latency.
However, the problem with LEO sat's is, they can not stay at the same speed the earth is ("stay still", to those of us on earth), so they are moving targets.
This makes it more complicated, as well as requiring more satellites (because they are moving, need more to have constant coverage). I forget what the number was, but it was like ~150 satellites for coverage of the whole earth. (VS ~8 for geosync for the same coverage). Thus, a lot more cost. |
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