ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
 ·VOIPo
|  Yeah right!!
"Verizon will soon be offering 5, 15, and 30Mbps fiber speed packages"
Yeah right... Maybe in places like D.C. where Verizon has pulled over 250 of their installers to so they can roll out wireless, pots, dsl and everything else in one bundled package. But not anywhere or any city like where I am. Hell, they have been promising to get my DSL for over three years and I am still stuck with crappy connections.
It will never happen... They are to self centered on making the big bonuses and millions of dollars to give their Executives. Not about doing something for the customer. |
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
|  We can do it
I will probably not see fiber in my life time, though I have wanted fiber for so long. There's some major changes that need to happen to make this a reality. One, we need a new telco, a telco that is worried about it's customers, not their revenue. One that doesn't overcharge, and one that constantly innovates.
Maybe we should start our own telco in a small city, kick out any large carrier, and buy their lines from them in that area, and start our own. Then slowly grow, and creep through out the state. I know it won't be cheap, but in the long run we will do more good than any telco can ever do.
Just a thought... someone needs to do it |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
| my thoughts
FTTP won't be providing DSL. At least not how we think of it. It would drop straight to an ethernet connection from the converter.
Also the 39,000 customers is pure FTTP. I'm fairly confident the 1996 stories were referencing FTTC. Mainly because in thsoe years that's precisely what happened. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Thumbs Up, Karl
I wish there were a thumbs-up feature for news posts. Nice job!
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catseyenu
Ack Pfft
Premium
join:2001-11-17
Fix East |  Thumbs up! |
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neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | I don't pay attention no more.....
...to anything what Verizon or any other company when they promise stuff. It's all to just get attention that's all. |
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JPuppy
Java Heathen
Premium
join:2002-11-24
Honesdale, PA
clubs: | Riiiiight....
I'd be thrilled if Verizon would increase my download speed past 768k.
Meh. |
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ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA
| reply to bogey780
Re: my thoughts
Also, its not cheap deploying the elements at the end of that fiber pipe, let alone what the fiber is connected to in the first place. What good is a local-loop segment capable of 5,10, 20, or even 100 Mbps if they run smack into a telco's core ATM that has trouble supporting 1.5x256 copper local loops without over-subscribing 5-10x?
I cannot imagine an ATM or routed core in a telco network where no over-subscription takes place and 100-Mbps is delivered to the customer. That's a pipe dream and I doubt, seriously doubt, it will get done before I die.
My stance on this is based on the 'best effort' business model. Best effort with no minimum guarantee of service, which is today's business model in the wholesaler world. |
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MTC_Wes
join:2004-04-22
Fergus, ON
| mmmm.. fiber
I live 45 minutes outside of Toronto, and up here not only does the local Bell run fiber, but the regional and provincial electricity companies operate their own fiber optic network that is basically anywheres you can find a utility sub-station. No, we don't have fiber to the home, but your never very far from a fiber loop. AND yes, the utility does offer internet transit/point to point links for a fair fee (Dedicated 5Mbps link for $700/mth CAD, or shared for cheaper) on top of that the transportation authority also operates fiber optic networks along any major highway, they also offer connections to anyone that wants it. I don't know how it works in the US. but the general idea here is that these utilities/authorities have lots of extra capacity to sell off. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to ParanoiaInc
Re: my thoughts
Even fiber to the neighborhood would be a miracle anymore.
puritan |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | Sure we'll see it, about the time ....
somebody invents a "remote viewer/ESP" interface. Then Verizon will claim it is unfair and want regulatory relief from those pesky laws of physics that are holding them down. |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
1 edit | reply to MTC_Wes
Re: mmmm.. fiber
Well, in America, I can say that the backbone providers have been complaining for years that they've overbuilt and that there is tons of capacity yet to be tapped. This overbuilding and lack of utilization has kept many providers from reaching profitability. What they need to do is pressure the last mile providers to expand and get faster speeds to the end user.
I've long said that Level3, Worldcrap (err, Worldcom) and the other backbone providers should get into the last mile market and sell capacity directly to the customer. $300/Mbps is way inflated, but its what they are having to charge because of extreme under-utilization.
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alanhdsl
Premium
join:1999-10-09
Phoenix, AZ | reply to wentlanc
Miracles can happen...
...if only in a few areas. I'm using Qwest's FTTN right now, which uses VDSL from the fiber termination to the premises. So it can work. |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| reply to neftv
Re: I don't pay attention no more.....
said by neftv  :
...to anything what Verizon or any other company when they promise stuff. It's all to just get attention that's all.
Exactly, and more to the point this is to manipulate their stock for "the street."
I am pretty sure the SEC has regulations on this kind of crap. |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| yah right!!
"The new fiber-optic lines also will allow Verizon to offer the most advanced consumer broadband service the U.S. has ever seen. Internet connections of up to 30 megabits per second, more than 10 times faster than a state-of-the-art cable modem or digital subscriber line (DSL), will be possible, Verizon executives say. Five- and 15-megabit versions will be available for customers who don't require all that juice. Although specific pricing hasn't been decided, the 5-meg version will be competitive with cable modem service, which typically costs $40 to $45 a month. Eventually, if there's demand for it, Verizon intends to offer consumers Net connections of 100 megs or more."
Is this a joke or something? I'll believe it when I See it.. 100 megs is not scheduled for another 25-30 years. I doubt Verizon will roll out 5 megs for $40-$45 because.. well.. its too damn cheap lol. |
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orldf
@verizon.net
| 3mb dsl yes - fiber maybe by 2010
Verizon won't upgrade until some competitor forces their hand. They honestly don't give a care about giving anyone the best or fastest service, they care only that you keep paying them each month for whatever it takes to keep you paying them.
So honestly you won't see fiber to your house in this decade I think. Laugh you might, but you will see. |
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Fierytemplar
join:2003-07-11
Warminster, PA | eh?
so what? if you guys keep paying them each month and they mantain a profit, theres no reason for them to upgrade. when states pay them sackloads of money to upgrade though, it is a different matter and verizon should be held accountable |
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bfranks
join:2002-06-22
Arlington, VA
| Texas.... Didn't PA give enough?
Maybe I am missing something here, but if Pennsylvania gave Verizon money to roll out a fiber network that was abandoned, and then was later forgiven of the grants, why is Verizon rolling the service out in Texas?
That doesn't make any sense to me. |
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Underplay
join:2003-10-19
Tacoma, WA | bs
This is pathetic, if i had the power i would crush verizon and fource all the other providers to make 5mbp/s there lowest package for $40 a month. |
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Tim2
Premium
join:2006-06-19
2 edits | Oops.
Forgot this was a very old thread. |
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