Jarmann
Will eat for food
Premium
join:2003-05-25
clubs: | D-oh
No surprise there really. BT is "LOLLOL GOOD SPEEDS!" and easy to use and also great at distributing new files. Was only a matter of time wasn't it? |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | News Flash!
No one on the internet is anonymous...anywhere! |
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Mentiroso
join:2003-10-15
Albany, GA
| reply to Jarmann
Re: D-oh
I treid BT and it always sucked. I could never get anything fast and I tried several hundred files and nothing worth waiting 10 hours. I hit XDCC and get what I need much faster (1.6gb movie in 2 hours). So the BT crack down doesnt bother me a bit.
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garagerock
Premium
join:2002-06-14
Louisville, KY | Good Thing...
I only trade live, uncopyrighted performances from one band! |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
 ·Comcast
| Always a crap shoot
When you use one of these programs you never know who is connected to you. In BT you can see all the ip addresses of people connected to you, but do you have any idea who those ip addresses belong to?
Even if you did a whois lookup on every ip address connected to you and knew all the companies that are employed by the RIAA/MPAA, it still wouldn't help because it would already be too late.
I liken using one of these programs to speeding on the highway. Will you get caught everytime? No. Will you get caught eventually? Yes.
The only way not to get caught is not to download copyrighted material.
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MuDvAyNe
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Brooklyn, NY | ~
Just keep using IRC 
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xmrocks
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-23
clubs:  | reply to dadkins
Re: News Flash!
exactly!! But SO FEW understand that....  |
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nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
clubs:
| reply to Mentiroso
Re: D-oh
said by Mentiroso  :
I treid BT and it always sucked. I could never get anything fast and I tried several hundred files and nothing worth waiting 10 hours. I hit XDCC and get what I need much faster (1.6gb movie in 2 hours). So the BT crack down doesnt bother me a bit.
Ok, thanks for sharing even though it has nothing to do with the subject.
you've tried BT and it's always "sucked" for you = nothing to do with BT users getting DMCA warnings.
"I could never get anything fast and I tried several hundred files and nothing worth waiting 10 hours." = nothing to do with BT users getting DMCA warnings.
you use XDCC = nothing to do with BT users getting DMCA warnings.
it takes you 2 hours to get 1.6gb = nothing to do with BT users getting DMCA warnings.
"So the BT crack down doesnt bother me a bit." It certainly does not.
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steelgaze
Premium
join:2002-02-01
San Francisco, CA
clubs:
| No surprise
Man.. People are just plain silly.
If you think you can just download everything and not worry, Guess what.. you're wrong. If you're going to break the law, you should the the responsibility.
Play with fire and you're going to be burned. |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Your IP is right there!
How could anyone think BT trading is anonymous? Every IP, wether it be uploading or downloading, for any given file, is clearly displayed for everyone else running the file.
BT is great for sharing files among friends, and for legal distribution (Lindows BT download maxed my connection) but for copyright stuff? No way.
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nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
clubs:
| said by Camelot One :
How could anyone think BT trading is anonymous?
people who don't know what an IP is, or who/what the RIAA/MPAA is.
Most people just want to know the bare-minimum of how something works - they don't want to learn about all the fine details as long as they get what they want as quick as possible. Legalities don't cross their mind because "Bob does it and he hasn't been arrested".
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| Well, see that is fine with me. I have no objections to internet trading going back to those who know what they are doing. Back when it was just us geeks trading stuff, no one messed with us.
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to steelgaze
Re: No surprise
said by steelgaze :
Play with fire and you're going to be burned.
Way simplistic.
Doesn't it sorta depend who's fire and how you play? Or have you removed all the colors from your world and everything is just black & white? |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| But They're UPLOADING
From what little I understand, the going theory is that BitTorrent users are especially vulnerable NOT because their "IP address is shared with everyone", but because they are ALSO UPLOADING and sharing the same file they are downloading, as part of the normal BitTorrent protocol.
Several people have claimed that pure downloaders (leechers) are NOT subject to any letters or other actions, but that is next to impossible with BitTorrent (it severely limits the rate at which one can download).
So the "IP in the clear" explanation, while true, is not the reason the users are vulnerable.
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Mentiroso
join:2003-10-15
Albany, GA
| reply to nfx
Re: D-oh
said by nfx :
said by Mentiroso :
I treid BT and it always sucked. I could never get anything fast and I tried several hundred files and nothing worth waiting 10 hours. I hit XDCC and get what I need much faster (1.6gb movie in 2 hours). So the BT crack down doesnt bother me a bit.
Ok, thanks for sharing even though it has nothing to do with the subject.
"So the BT crack down doesnt bother me a bit." It certainly does not.
Well Dick, if you read everything I said you would have noticed that I said the crackdown doesnt bother me because I dont use BT. So what I said does have something to do with the topic. So why not take the stick out of your ass and learn to read?
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vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD | Get a DVD burner and netflix
Burn and return. The MPAA or RIAA cant touch you there. (well they can but they wont). |
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vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
| reply to Camelot One
Re: Your IP is right there!
said by Camelot One :
Well, see that is fine with me. I have no objections to internet trading going back to those who know what they are doing. Back when it was just us geeks trading stuff, no one messed with us.
Yeah its when Kevin Rose does his dark tips on techTV that a bunch of n00bs get in on it then the RIAA comes sniffing around. I never cared for BT but its happened countless times.
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rip_sketches
join:2002-05-25
Dallas, GA
| reply to nfx
Re: D-oh
And what exactly does YOUR post have to do with the topic on hand ?
You know we could do this all day long, play topic cop, if you really wanna.
But to keep a bit ontopic, if you really want to be anonymous in your downloading habits.. if you really think being anon online exists, Usenet is the word.
Note i said downloading, and not uploading.
Tho your isp will keep a nice record of what you download and it doesn't take much to get that info out of them these days now does it ? |
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dda
Premium
join:2003-12-29
Bolton, MA
| reply to garagerock
Re: Good Thing...
Do keep in mind that all works are copyrighted now; there is no need to explicitly do anything. And yes, this includes live performances.
I assume what you really mean is that you only trade works for which you have redistribution rights and these happen to all be live performances from one band.
The Grateful Dead, for example, used to allow tape trading of their shows but they didn't allow you to broadcast those tapes. |
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nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
clubs:
| reply to Mentiroso
Re: D-oh
said by Mentiroso :
Well Dick, if you read everything I said you would have noticed that I said the crackdown doesnt bother me because I dont use BT.
You said it yourself, it doesn't affect you. So why did you bother posting about your experiences with BT? How do your experiences with BT relate to the DMCA warnings? You don't even use it!
I hope you'll be able to comprehend what i just said.
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