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Comments on news posted 2004-04-14 17:01:20: BellSouth has decided to sue Atlanta based Joi Internet, a dial-up provider that offers "accelerated" dial-up service, for false advertising. ..

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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
Uhhh....

Get real!


technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA

This is Great

Misleading advertising needs to be stopped, plain and simple. I used to use Joi Internet back in my Field Technician days and needed a reliable cheap dialup to test stuff with, but those days have been numbered.

You can not claim dsl speeds over dialup, there is no possible way that this will ever happen. I remember seeing the billboard on 285 for Joi Internet, and them pushing "DSL Speeds at Dialup Price". Now tell me how misleading that is? If I wasn't smart enough I would jump on that deal in a heart beat.

I stand behind bellsouth on this issue.
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JohnQPublic
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join:2002-03-22
Xanadu

 How ironic

BellSouth sues another company for false advertising. Perhaps BellSouth should look at its house before throwing stones.

FWIW, I'm referring to BellSouth's padding the bill with "recovery" charges, yet not including them in the advertised price.
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jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA
All Bell South has to do

BellSouth does not need to file a lawsuit. They should just do a time comparison of MP3 file download between DSL and dial-up. Or show download time between DSL and dialup.


technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
I want to believe that bellsouth is out to get joi internet to stop misleading consumers


ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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MOre than likely because of the false advertising and the fact they are directly using Bellsouth's name in the ad.

I really cannot say that I blame them for this law suit. I have always been against the false advertising by companies like Joi and AOL that say dialup can be faster than DSL. Just look at AOL's new ads.


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
At least AOL is wise enough to only compare it to other dial-up providers not using acceleration and not a broadband provider....


ropeguru
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Bridgeport, WV
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Exactly...


neutral
faith in the future
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Ringgold, GA
·AT&T Southeast

reply to technick
Re: This is Great

said by technick See Profile:

. I remember seeing the billboard on 285 for Joi Internet, and them pushing "DSL Speeds at Dialup Price". Now tell me how misleading that is? If I wasn't smart enough I would jump on that deal in a heart beat.

You know what, I know people that actually have dumped their DSL after seeing the endless parade of Joi ads, radio spots, and billboards. (Then I get the "why doesn't it work" call cause I'm the "computer person". )

said by technick See Profile:

I stand behind bellsouth on this issue.

I'll stand behind them if it'll stop those #$@# ads.
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NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN
reply to dadkins
Re: Uhhh....

Stupid companies need to get sued...


JIGA
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Azle, TX
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Dial up acceleration, blah!

I have been stuck on 56k for 4 years now since I moved. Finally getting Charter cable this next Friday.

I have tried all sorts of dial-up providers. At one point I even tried Joi Internet. I normally manually make my dialup connections, never use the software. For Joi I just had to try out the "accelerated internet".

All they are using is a caching server and compression on images, just like the article states. When browsing forums you constantly had to ctrl-F5 to get a refresh. Downloads/uploads were still the same speeds, same shitty latency in gaming.

I didn't fall for their scheme, I mearly wanted to see what the acceleration was about. Once you have brought up a page, that page is loaded a slight bit faster the second time you visit it, due to it being cached, but as soon as you ctrl-F5 it, it's back to the slow loads.

All these commercials that come on showing their accelerated dialup access just makes me sick, and the people they interview.... I pray these people are paid to say good things about them. It's either that or they are completely computer illiterate.
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yock
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Fairfield, OH

reply to Karl Bode
Re: All Bell South has to do

said by Karl Bode See Profile:
At least AOL is wise enough to only compare it to other dial-up providers not using acceleration and not a broadband provider....

NetZero has been doing the same with their "High Speed" Dialup product.

gnubeest
Gnu

join:2001-10-28
Nashville, TN

The problem I have is ...

... that these ISPs won't point out that this is all a software solution, and that it has nothing to do with any remarkable powers the dial-up ISP has suddenly procured. You're not going to get much more out of a dial-up than your modem's built-in v.90 compression, and anyone can go out and get one of the many browser cache/pre-fetch applications available, use it with their existing ISP, and get the same effect.

Aside from that, I don't have a problem with advertising browsing speed enhancements over standard dial-up, although Joi seems to be an exception when they try to compare themselves to DSL. Earthlink has been careful to note in their television ads that their service doesn't help the speed of files, attachments, video, etc.


Soud

join:2000-10-15
Atlanta, GA

I live here...

I live in Atlanta...AND OMG!!! Every way i look, there is a Joi billboard saying how you could get dsl speeds for only $6.99. I'm not as annoyed by the lies as much as i am annoyed with the sheer number of signs. Jesus!! Where are they getting all this advertizing funds?


oldTDNickell
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Federal Way, WA
reply to dadkins
Re: Uhhh....

Thats funny huh.:D:D:D
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Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....

join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA

get them

"Within few days you will notice dramatic improvement of your dial-up performance in some cases, pages will displayed more swiftly than on a DSL. "

"Although, the connecting speed indicated “same speed” as before (i.e. 28.8K, 36K, 48K, 53K) your surfing is dramatically faster, pages that previously took almost 30 seconds to load, can now be viewed in less than 7 seconds, on average, and sometimes even faster! Within few days you will notice dramatic improvement of your dial-up performance in some cases, pages will displayed more swiftly than on a DSL."

they also pretty much claim that you can run aol, and other services on top of their connection, virtually eliminating the service of the other company.

yep they need to go.


T_Hoffman

join:2002-11-10
Clovis, CA

reply to yock
Re: All Bell South has to do

said by yock See Profile:
said by Karl Bode See Profile:
At least AOL is wise enough to only compare it to other dial-up providers not using acceleration and not a broadband provider....

NetZero has been doing the same with their "High Speed" Dialup product.

but does netzero call out a certain company and use speed comparisons to a certain company? different ball game when you say why get bellsouth dsl when our dialup is just as fast for 9 bucks a month.. bellsouth downloads a mp3 at 2min 15secs our high speed dial up is 5 min and 15 secs, which is only 2 min slower then bell south.

go bellsouth !! get these imposters!


l33t
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Indianapolis, IN
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reply to technick
Re: This is Great

WERD what technick said ...


Omega
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Cheyenne, WY
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reply to technick
This is great, I am sick of watching commericals for "fast dial-up" it pisses me off.

Dial-up is dying, they need to realize that.
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statecop
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join:2002-09-16
Beverly Hills, CA
Go get 'em!

I hope Bellsouth makes them understand the error of their ways! I am also sick of seeing these dialups trying to cheat people that dont know any better. It is usually the older people and newbies they target.
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