komal
join:2003-02-16 | They suck
They make bloatware. It annoys me when people use their format. Use real alternative. |
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Jaime
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Huntington Beach, CA
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| I like the marketing spin
"today announced the public availability of RealPlayer® 10, the best media player ever."
"The Easiest and Friendliest RealPlayer Ever"
"Best Video and Audio Quality Ever"
They sure like the word "ever" a lot.
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danamaste
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Liberty, MO
| About time
Actually, I'll believe it when I see it. As far as I'm concerned, "Real" is one of the biggest messes out there. The hooks and pure garbage in the software are inexcusable. I'd rather NOT watch video, than use Real Player.
Don't want it on Web Sites. Don't want it on my machine. |
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NoFatChicks
No, I'M The Exon And You're The Intron
join:2002-06-15
Blountsville, AL
| They make Microsoft look competent.
What got me off Real Audio, was a few years ago, I was installing their player and it said something like ‘your audio files are associated with another program, do you want to fix this deficiency’, as though it was somehow my set up that was wrong - how pushy. Oh, and they are BIG supporters of the DNC, so that sealed the deal on me never using them ever again. |
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vitalus
join:2003-12-17
Sugar Land, TX
| why real player when thre better
There so many codecs out there, and real player in my use of there player falls way short - I have downloaded almost all free players out there to watch: movies / slides / music and anything. There are other free players out there that have better quality and play more files that have extended codecs in them- so in short search and you will find better real player falls short. |
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jagged
join:2003-07-01
Boynton Beach, FL | reply to Jaime
Re: I like the marketing spin
how about 'never'
10 is the same old junk, i dont see what's changed at all
registration is about the lames feature they could think up |
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LrdVader
Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| reply to vitalus
Re: why real player when thre better
said by vitalus  :
There so many codecs out there, and real player in my use of there player falls way short - I have downloaded almost all free players out there to watch: movies / slides / music and anything. There are other free players out there that have better quality and play more files that have extended codecs in them- so in short search and you will find better real player falls short.
When the content you want to see is in RealMedia format, you don't have the luxury of choosing to use a different codec. |
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titanmiller
join:2002-03-17
Grand Forks, ND | reply to komal
Re: They suck
I stopped using Real Player years ago, never looked back either and I dont plan on going back unless lots of people say that it truly is good. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| reply to NoFatChicks
Re: They make Microsoft look competent.
said by NoFatChicks :
Oh, and they are BIG supporters of the DNC, so that sealed the deal on me never using them ever again.
hahaha...with friends like that, who needs enemies? |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
Premium
join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
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| reply to komal
Re: They suck
said by komal :
They make bloatware. It annoys me when people use their format. Use real alternative.
Me too. I am trying to rid myself of Real Player files. I am doing pretty good so far.
Real Alternative is decent, but I still prefer .avi or mpeg.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to vitalus
Re: why real player when thre better
best thing to do is you and your friends lobby the people that only supply content in real format and demand more widely used codecs (like WM9) |
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LrdVader
Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| said by inteller :
best thing to do is you and your friends lobby the people that only supply content in real format and demand more widely used codecs (like WM9)
WM9 is still proprietary, so it's not much of an improvement. A more standardized codec, like MPEG4, would be much nicer. |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| Yeah?`
quote:
Tries to repair 'bloated junk' image
Yeah, well good luck with that...
I doubt very many new people are going to want to ride your train because you painted it a new color (after you ran it down into a ravine).
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KALIROB2k4
Premium
join:2003-06-02
Palmdale, CA
clubs:
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Re: why real player when thre better
I agree, Real used be an alright codec back in its earlier days in my opinion. But then it sharply hit a slump and became a aweful clunky bloatware  .
And as they became greedy, all the other codecs including DivX and some others passed them up and actually ended up giving WAY better video quality and compression (And still do).
Maybe they should have thought more about how to improve instead of thinking they were safe and should waste time with all that filler.
They lost my buisness many years back and I refused to use their format till Windows Media player started supporting it. I have used Real Alternative since its debut and I never plan on looking back at Real Player.
Goes to show you greed causes a successful company to turn to malware infested bloat.  |
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dallash
Premium
join:2001-08-17
Little Rock, AR
clubs:
| They suck...
Once they dumped their payload of Spyware on my system, I nuked it and never looked back. They're bloated, crappy, and used their position to take advantage of novice users (a la realdownload) for years. If someone only offers an audio stream in "real" format only, I simply don't listen (or go back to the site for that matter).
Just my $0.02,
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tcp1
Premium
join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
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| reply to komal
Re: They suck
I don't believe Real Alternative is fully legal to distribute with a product or project..
We ran into a problem where unfortunately Real was the only answer.
Nothing yet is out there that compares with Real's RealPix format for doing slide presentations synchronized with an audio stream.. True; flash may be an answer -- but there are no tools that can be used during encoding and recording that can be simply imported into flash to synchronize slides -- with Real, it reads an SMIL XML file that's very simple to write for.
True; MS is starting with HTML+Time, but support for this is very limited.
So, for a conference with 81 presentations that we had to get online in very short order, we had to stick with Real.
I did not like that; and I don't like forcing people to use RealPlayer since it is/has been so horribly invasive.
We looked at RealAlternative, but I'm not sure about the licensing agreements -- and what liability might be taken on by somebody encouraging its use in a commercial application. The "player" framework for RealAlternative is open source, but it uses Real's codecs.. that's a bit of a problem, I think. |
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KALIROB2k4
Premium
join:2003-06-02
Palmdale, CA
clubs:
| reply to AthlGrond
Re: Yeah?`
said by AthlGrond :
quote:
Tries to repair 'bloated junk' image
Yeah, well good luck with that...
I doubt very many new people are going to want to ride your train because you painted it a new color (after you ran it down into a ravine).
LOL Very funny AthlGrond, best example I think we will see for this situation.  |
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Real sucks
This thread alone should be enough to prove how bad it is. No matter what we talk about, there is always at least someone who disagrees. I have yet to see one person say anything close to being good about real. |
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cgrrguyTO
join:2001-09-21
Toronto, ON | I'll give it a shot on my quarantined machine in a few months. Should just about be due for a format/reinstall by then anyhow. Otherwise, I wouldn't even consider it. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| to late
To late, Real Alternative already cleaned up their player for them (only codec and classic player).
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