RipRap
Bmw Power
join:2000-08-24
Berlin, CT
clubs: |  SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
run this damn country!
May as well make your IRS check out to Exxon.......... |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | another reason...
...why I don't see the United States improving on our 11th place standing in the world for broadband.
Michael Powell, can you hear us now?
No, Michael only hears when industry speaks. |
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs: | Damn you Qwest!
Damn you Michael Powell and your daddy! |
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | reply to RipRap
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
Nah exxon may actually make good use of it. Goverment waste it so much better. |
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DSL Oberst
join:2001-11-29
| It's about the money.
It is always about the money.
What is good for the industries of America are good for the government and their ability to keep control; thus, the answers we receive.
What surprises me is that people are actually surprised at these outcomes. Broadband is not a government/industry priority. There are better things they can make money on.
Since heavy BB users are a minority - make that, a very small minority - in this country, it will be a long time before government/industry goes into fullscale deployment. |
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RipRap
Bmw Power
join:2000-08-24
Berlin, CT
clubs:
|  reply to Freezone
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
said by Freezone  :
Nah exxon may actually make good use of it. Goverment waste it so much better.
How very true......
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Beaker74
join:2003-11-21
Saint Louis, MO
| Egads!
Dumbest. Decision. Ever.
Need I say more. So, we're going to have to rely on money-grubbing idiots who's sight is only limited to the bottom-line to wire up communities. Great.
Well, I hope we continue our downward trend in losing the broadband footrace in the world. Maybe then, someone will get off their duffs and help communities out.
This is moronic. |
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| reply to pcscdma
Re: Damn you Qwest!
said by pcscdma :
Damn you Michael Powell and your daddy!
At what point did either of the Powells get appointed to the Supreme Court? |
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jekler
join:2000-11-23
Cincinnati, OH
clubs:
| reply to RipRap
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
I feel a small measure of disatisfaction with this decision. It's quite a blow to the consumer. I think it's unfair that service has been restricted to big business. It's so funny that in a country supposedly founded on democratic principles, the people seldom ever get what they want. It seems counter-intuitive that at every turn, what we get is exactly the opposite of what we collectively chose. Making our voice heard in this country is like ordering at McDonalds.
"I'll have one order of low-cost municipal broadband please."
"$59.95 broadband coming right up sir."
"No, I said low-cost broadband."
"Let me get the manager."
"What do I need a manager for? I just want broadband at a low-cost."
"Hi sir, I'm the manager here. I've been informed that you wanted our broadband package for $79.95."
"What? The other person said it was $59.95, that was too expensive anyway, what about the municipal broadband option?"
"I'm sorry sir. $110.95 broadband is the only package we have." |
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dylking
join:2001-07-31
Saint Paul, MN | Any Entity
means 'any entity that we want, not any entity that wants to'.
seemed cut and dry to me. any=any. some=some. select=select. now, the supreme court says 'any=select'? time to rewrite the dictionary. |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| reply to nasadude
Re: another reason...
The Supreme Court decision hinges extensively on the topic of Telecommunications. Where Chairman Powell could find himself between a rock and a hard place, if one were to view broadband as referring to high speed internet service, is the FCC position that broadband internet service (specifically cable internet) is not a telecommunications service. It would be interesting to see a legal opinion regarding the effect of this ruling on potential municipal offerings which do not contain a component currently viewed by the FCC as telecommunications.
In reference to the potentially related cases noted in the news item, it kind of leaves me wondering if this is yet another sign that corporate interests have the ability to enact legislation in spite of the will of the people, even at the State level. |
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hpguru
Curb Your Dogma
Premium
join:2002-04-12
| reply to Freezone
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
said by Freezone :
Nah exxon may actually make good use of it.
Ever seen a corporation run on democratic principles? I don't know of any such animal.
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Build your own Network!
I keep telling you guys, the most obvious solution, is to build your own Network. The Community gets together, builds their Giga-Ethernet, and then shops for their Providers and picks the size of pipe they need from each. Then just sit back and watch all the Bozo's run around wondering what happened!
ALC |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs:
 ·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Freezone
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
said by Freezone :
Nah exxon may actually make good use of it.
that's the funniest thing i've ever heard. |
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batageek
Slave To The Duopoly
Premium
join:2003-01-25
| VICTIMS!!!
Once again, the cities and towns that want to FIX the damn problem are getting screwed.
If the voters in your town want to do this, the why the heck should the state care? Oh, that's right.....the lawmakers that push these Bell/Cable company bills are taking contributions from the incumbents.
See »www.opensecrets.org/industries/c···nd=C2200
and
»www.opensecrets.org/industries/c···?ind=B08
and
»www.opensecrets.org/industries/i···nd=C2200
and
»www.opensecrets.org/industries/i···?ind=B08
Geez this chaps my hide!
When will people finally figure out they're being had over and over by these pirates...
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StimpyX
@megapath.net | Typical
If corporations hate it, it's usually good for consumers |
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yock
TFTC
Premium
join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
| reply to RipRap
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
I feel both the muni's and the special interests overstepped their bounds in this case. Muni's should have worked like any commercial business would, by working with the local competition rather than step all over their toes. Unfortunately, rather than fight back, it seems that special interest ran home, crying to mommy (US government) over what the big, bad, Muni's did to their precious customer base.
Both sides could have won over this one, but instead we're right back where we started. |
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indigo
join:1999-08-22
Covina, CA | reply to alchav
Re: Build your own Network!
The special interest groups will soon find a way to ban this, too, if they haven't already. |
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8744675
join:2000-10-10
Decatur, GA
| Muni's have one more ace in the hole
There's one more card the muni's can play. Instead of granting 1 private provider an exclusive franchise in their boundries, like most do with cable, they should open up their territory to any provider who want's to offer service.
Let's see what the Supreme Court has to say about allowing fair competition in the market place. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| reply to Freezone
Re: SIGs, (Special Interest Groups)
said by Freezone :
Nah exxon may actually make good use of it. Goverment waste it so much better.
This is true, if you invest in EXXON you will receive money back in dividends. When was the last time a city has given back money to anyone without kicking a screaming.
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