pepperhead
join:2001-10-18
Bowling Green, KY
| Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
Been thinking of getting Dish network. The lose of MTV is no big thing but the others may make me put off my choice longer.
--
"Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." - Bennett Marco |
|
ddavtian
join:2000-08-19
San Jose, CA
1 edit | DELETED
--
www.e5interactive.com : CA Based Web Hosting Company! |
|
StudioTech
S2409W plus SA4250HD
join:2001-10-10
Edison, NJ
| For those that don't have Dish Network
Don't think this can't happen to any of us. Remember the Disney/Time Warner dispute back in 2000 and the Cablevision/YES dispute of 2002-03. All non-broadcast commercial programming should be a la carte meaning we as the consumers should be able to pick and choose what programming we want to watch. |
|
moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to pepperhead
Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
You can put off your choice now. But you have to remember that this might happen again with another supplier such as Comcast, DirectTV, Cox, and so on.
I think everyone is waiting for the court decision. If it goes in favor of DISH, then consumers win. If it goes Viacom's way, then be ready for the battles.
I hope DISH stays firm. |
|
fantomposter
Phantom Poster
Premium
join:2002-09-21
Independence, OH
| reply to ddavtian
said by ddavtian  :
This is amazing, what kind of B.S. is this, we have DirecTV and saw the message scroll on number of channels, MTV, BET, etc. I think this is something that Dish will regret, people will drop them like a bad habit and they should. This is pure B.S.
Consider this. The contract that your provider, DirectTV has with Viacom will come up for negotiation next year. Based soley upon your attitude I hope Viacom hits DirectTV with a HUGE rate increase and that DirectTV passes it on to you.
Me, I will stand by Dish. They are fighting to keep my rates low. Nothing wrong with that. |
|
Minotaur
join:2003-06-10
Ronkonkoma, NY | As always
It comes down to greed so the consumer has to suffer. That means No MTV,VH1,Spiketv,CBS,Nickelodeon,Nick at night and some others. Echostar and Viacom better come up with a compromise. |
|
petrus
join:2002-01-09
Atlanta, GA | Good riddance
I don't watch any Viacom programming anyway. They lost me when VH1 started "glorifying" criminals with their show "Music Behind Bars". They did not seem to care about the feelings of these criminals' victims. So, GOOD RIDDANCE!!! |
|
jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to ddavtian
Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
said by ddavtian :
This is amazing, what kind of B.S. is this, we have DirecTV and saw the message scroll on number of channels, MTV, BET, etc. I think this is something that Dish will regret, people will drop them like a bad habit and they should. This is pure B.S.
At least somebody has the guts to stand up to the likes of Viacom and their ilk. Dish Network has been extremely fair to its customer base with regards to prices over the last few years. This falls more on the hands of Viacom's insatiable greed rather than Dish Network's resistance to be extorted.
I hope Dish Network refuses to let Viacom back, ever. If they did this, I swear that I would start an account with Dish Networks for their basic package, even though my apartment faces northward and I would never be able to get a signal. Seriously. Go Dish Networks! |
|
jtudor
Xm 60's On 6 Freak
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC
|  Customers need to call in droves
In the news reports, Echostar/Dish is urging customers to call CBS/Viacom and complain. Viacom is urging viewers to call Dish and complain.
I think that all Dish customers should call Dish and CBS and complain loudly to both.
If I were a Dish customer, that is exactly what I would do, and I would tell both that they need to work their differences out to the benefit of the customers.
Then I would give Dish until the end of the current month, or I would cancel my subscription fee, and dare then to try to charge me a cancellation fee.
I would base that dare on the removal of channels which were part of my decision making process when I decided which satellite service to subscribe to. Had some of those channels not been available at the time or subscription, then I would not have taken that service.
It might not work out in the end, but I would try it anyway.
--
Best of luck
"Do, or Do not, there is no try!" Yoda |
|
xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| mtv sucks anyway
good riddance! youre not missing anything worth watching or hearing for that matter. what does suck is them messing around with channel lineup. i had a dish a few years ago but when they tried to screw me over on a billing issue, i took my business elsewhere.
--
fat people should be called skinny cause they have more skin. |
|
Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
I agree and as I mentioned in this post, »CBS takes offensive against Dish Network/EchoStar, it's just Dish Network's turn currently... It will be DirecTV's turn someday as well as different cable companies soon too. |
|
MuDvAyNe
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Brooklyn, NY
 ·Vonage
| reply to xdeadhead
Re: mtv sucks anyway
said by xdeadhead :
good riddance! youre not missing anything worth watching or hearing for that matter. what does suck is them messing around with channel lineup. i had a dish a few years ago but when they tried to screw me over on a billing issue, i took my business elsewhere.
the one channel I am really missing is CBS, then again football doesn't start until August. Gotta see my football 
--
The end of all things to come. |
|
NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to fantomposter
Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
If I remember correctly this did happen with Comcast a few years back but it was with Disney. Ecostar is doing the right thing. Everytime we complain because cable companies are raising rates its because companies like Viacom try to force cable and satellite companies to carry stations they don't want to carry.
Additionally, everytime some major league athelete or popstar gets some outrageous contract with millions, the owner of that contract passes on the cost to cable and satellite companies who ultimately pass it onto customers.
Ecostar/DirectTV or whoever they are is doing the right thing. |
|
Googled
Yay, I have FIOS
join:2001-08-13
Orchard Park, NY
·VoicePulse
| That's not a loss
I wouldn't consider not having MTV as a loss. It's an opportunity for Echostar to replace that channel with better programming.
This is going to end badly for consumers.
Customers will first complain to Echostar by singing "I want my MTV." Echostar will buckle under the pressure from it's customers submitting to the corporate greed of Viacom. Then within the year Echostar will raise rates, at which point customers will complain again.
I recently received notice that DirecTV is raising their rates (probably in response to the increasing Viacom rates) Perhaps I'll switch to DISH. I've been seeing a great number of commercials for them on DirecTV. 
The part that annoys me is that carriers have to pay to get the programming channels. Then consumers are ripped off by having to watch commercials on channels that they (indirectly) pay for.
As an FYI to Echostar consumers there is another option you all have: »www.skyangel.com/ can be picked up with DISH network satellite equipment.
--
DirecWay DW3000 DRS, SatMex 5 970 gateway 42?, P3-533/256 MB, Host 2000 SP4 w/ICS,Squid Proxy,TreeWalk DNS; shared to 1*XP, 1*2000, 1*Debian Linux, 802.11b enabled |
|
jeffkjo
join:2002-03-19
Cary, NC
| reply to Minotaur
Re: As always
Actually, Spike TV (and CMT) are still airing (Dish Network customer since 1998 here.) As SpikeTV was originally owned by some company based out of Nashville, and was only recently purchased by Viacom, the residual contract is still in place and will be for quite some time.
I support Dish Network and CEO Charlie Ergen all the way in this. I'm glad someone has finally stood up to these media conglomerates. In the end, Viacom loses. Dish TV has about 8-9% of the National Television Market. That's an awful lot of advertising dollars. |
|
beck
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-29
On The Road
 ·AllureHost
·Qwest.net
 ·Verizon BroadbandA..
| Leave them off the air
I only care about 2 of these channels. One local and Comedy Central. But I will live without them just fine so my rates don't increase. In fact, they should go down now!
I want to be able to pick each channel I get. I have the basic package and only keep about 15 in my list anyway. So, if I paid $1 each per month, then I'd have a cheaper rate.
--
Need a job. Perhaps I should get a life too. |
|
pepperhead
join:2001-10-18
Bowling Green, KY
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
Part of the reason I was going to go to dish is to save money. One of the channels I really wanted to get was TV Land. I could care less about most of the other Viacom channels. If they move some of the channels up a tier or lower their prices I might get them anyway. I am tired of the media conglomerates making underwater basket weaving channels and using their power to force them on cable and satellite providers.
--
"Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." - Bennett Marco |
|
NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to Googled
Re: That's not a loss
I agree with your post. I got my increase from Comcast in December. And just last month when I went to my local Comcast office to downgrade from digital to basic, there were two others doing the same thing.
Cable rates are getting too damd expensive for what I get. That means I don't get to see Sopranos anymore but .......... thats not a priority of mine. |
|
J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | reply to jmn1207
Re: Good thing I didn't get Dish yet
While I tend to agree, is anyone else wondering why Showtime and The Movie Channel haven't come into play in this little spat? While these premium channels are likely under a separate contract, both are owned by Viacom. |
|
pepperhead
join:2001-10-18
Bowling Green, KY | reply to MuDvAyNe
Re: mtv sucks anyway
You can go to a bar for football. Now it would be a real tragedy if you couldn't watch any hockey! |
|
