doppler
join:2003-03-31
Blue Point, NY
1 edit | What with the government and nice sounding words
And since it's for law enforcement use. They will
of course make it insecure.
Civil liberties down the tubes also. |
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roamer1
sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs: | Here in the Peach State...
Gov. Perdue has said "NO" to Georgia being part of the Matrix...
»www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/···rix.html
-SC |
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beers90125
join:2003-07-24
Kankakee, IL | reply to doppler
Re: What with the government and nice sounding words
And the information is stored by a private company. Hmmmm.
Like private companies haven't misused or sold "priviledged information" before. |
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apsinkus
join:2002-06-25
Chicago, IL
| Funny but....
You know, NSA and CIA had this all data for a long time 
Government is like pornstars - trying to go legit-mainstream, but it ain't that easy.
On the hardware side, at least some IT people are getting jobs in this country, though at what cost to privacy. |
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muecker
join:2003-07-20
Littleton, CO | Codename: Echelon
Isn't this already being done?
Or, is the Matrix just the 'public' story? |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
1 edit | Echelon is different, classified, global, and much older.
»www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm
Only used by NSA and CIA spooks (and to allegedly screw Airbus out of contracts claims some at the UN).... |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| Creating SPAM?
This Utah Deseret Morning News report even makes unsubstantiated claims the system sold personal information to American Express for marketing purposes (Utah has since halted their involvement in the project).
Is this where I am getting my American Express SPAM from? I have never had a credit card from anyone, never bought anything on credit from anywhere, but I get SPAM from American Express 2-3 times a week.
Hmmm... |
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ChrisDAT
Google Keyword Compsysnyc
join:2002-02-26
Hollis, NY
| I Understand the Problem...
Whenever anyone attempts to standardize data in an organization, it's a difficult enough task -- Now, here comes big bro, saying gimme your data -- It's obvious that every DMV in the US probably uses a different system, and that probably goes for "most" of the other data sources that this MATRIX is attempting to aggregate.
What may kill this effort entirely, is that the most secure systems are proprietary, in that they don't have documentation and message boards all over the internet giving up all the application's secrets and weaknesses. This will become a serious issue for local governments that will be forced[?] to standardize some of their data so that the data can be queried from a single "big bro" application.
In IT that always causes problems, just because data formats vary wildly just with respect to names and numbers -- in order for the aggregation to be of any use, it cannot just be collected and warehoused somewhere becasue most of the data is critically dynamic -- doing incremental "extractions" will not even cut it.
The network is the "easy" part, only because data transfer is standardized by protocols -- data [good data], the most important piece of this puzzle will prove to be more elusive than it may appear.
Even the best in the business can't seem to get this right -- Has anyone ever "exported" an MS-Word document produced with MS-WordPad and seen the "mess" you end up with when you open or, much worse print, the document in MS-Word -- It's just not pretty at all. |
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God
IN Vilseck Germany
Premium
join:2002-07-01
Colorado Springs, CO
clubs: | reply to muecker
Re: Codename: Echelon
the matrix has us ....
searching........
hacker found
die hacker die
= )
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY
 ·Packet8
| Terrorists and others benefiting from it
The access to database will be compromised by some Terrorist hacker and then what?
All of our personal private information will be available for all kinds of crimes. Centralized system may have some advantages, but security concerns are too big.
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Shaitan0
Premium
join:2004-01-12
Foldsville
clubs: | they want to fight terrorism by stockpiling everything that they need is in one place?
C'MON AMERICA WAKE UP!!!
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3.17 Gigs folding so far... |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | reply to beers90125
Re: What with the government and nice sounding wor
We must launch a pre-emptive strike now to stop the evil-doers and the asses of evil before they get stronger (hey, it worked for them) |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
| Not going to help
This, along with most if not all the other anti-terrorism laws aren't going to help one bit. They keep trying to push all these bills through which are only for the purpose of controlling the citizens and using terrorism as the push to get it through.
The US is becoming more of a police state day by day. |
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LegoPower77
Abecedarian
Premium
join:2002-08-03
Arlington, VA
| reply to apsinkus
Re: Funny but....
said by apsinkus  :
On the hardware side, at least some IT people are getting jobs in this country, though at what cost to privacy.
Nah, the eeevil profiteers will soon enough outsource much of the work to India.
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Cuchulainn
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts
join:2000-11-09
Chevy Chase, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| How is This Going to Help Catch Terrorists?
Excuse me if I'm missing something but how is a massive database of vehicle registrations, licenses, credit card information, payment/non-payment, web domain registration, Jell-o coupon redemption, etc. going to pinpoint terrorists??
Simple answer - it isn't. This is a red herring if ever there was one. All it's going to be used for is to harass law-abiding citizens like us.
As I have said before, Ashcroft thinks the real enemy is THE AMERICAN CITIZEN. Plain and simple.
Vote Bush and his cronies out while you still can..before they decide that the exercise of the democratic franchise (i.e, voting) supports "al-KAI-dah" and "Turrorism."
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rx7mike
join:2004-01-23
West Bend, WI
| I could see this being a very bad thing. I'm a very active person and do a lot of things they might look for in a terrorist. Although I'm not one but surfing through my information would send up a red flag on me I'm sure. I've taken flying lessons, sky diving, and buy at least 1 riffle or hand gun a year. I keep 90% of my money liquid(cash), and have very few credit cards. I'm sure they will have software running looking for something exactly like that. So because I'm a fairly well to do american and can pretty much do as I please I'm a terrorist? I visit other countries once a year. I could see this being a major invasion of privacy. I would definately be scrutinized. I imagine they would look to see just exactly how many guns I own as well. I have 3 gun cabinets full. I just like guns. Oh yeah dont ever try and rob my house. You will get shot  The goverment needs to be what it was intended to be. Run by the people, for the people, not run by the greedy corporations for the greedy politicians. |
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Uhawl
-- watching --
Premium
join:2000-10-21
Asylum | Is it 1984 already?
Big Brother is watching....... |
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vrp
vrp
Premium
join:2002-12-05
terra
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to yabos
Re: Not going to help
said by yabos :
... The US is becoming more of a police state day by day. ...
... this one line sums it up ...
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA |  Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
"Hey if you've done nothing wrong, why worry...."
There goes what little privacy we have left, if we had any to begin with.....
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PunkGod
join:2003-02-02
| reply to Shaitan0
Re: Terrorists and others benefiting from it
said by Shaitan0 :
they want to fight terrorism by stockpiling everything that they need is in one place?
C'MON AMERICA WAKE UP!!!
Americans are awake, its the government thats ahsleep |
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