herdfan
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GNXPower
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2 edits | Celebrate the freedom of choice
If people en mass demanded it, companies would deploy it. But unlike some countries, people here have alternate ways of communicating cheaply and obtaining news and in a lot of countries the government aids in deployment rather than being an over-regulating, over-taxing burden on business.
Sure there are some isolated areas here that don't have broadband but the same could be said for any nation with large rural populations, but that is a small cry from the minority of have it available but don't get it 'cause they don't want it. Squeeze us all into major cities, get the gov't off the backs of business and we would have 100% deployment too.
But as I see it, for the most part those who want it can get it should they choose to. They just ain't choosing to. |
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FLECOM
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| Anyone Suprised?
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because Industry wants us to be
no! lies! big business is always does what is in the interest of the consumer!!! anyone who sais anything else is telling lies!!!
and in the real world we are all at the mercy of evil companies that feel that 1.5/256 is worth $50 a month...
if it wasnt for other companies deploying DSL the bells would have never done it, i mean why? why would they sell you 1.5mbits of bandwith for $50 a month when they can twist your nipples and make you pay like $600 for a T1? back in the day you didnt have a choice
which is why im not suprised that USAToday has "discovered" that broadband sucks here in the US |
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GNXPower
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1 edit | said by FLECOM  :
and in the real world we are all at the mercy of evil companies that feel that 1.5/256 is worth $50 a month...
$50 a month? Who charges that any more? Not even Comcrap tops $50 a month any more. Look at SBC, $27/mo, Verizon $30-$35...hardly a bad deal and the workings of evil anti-consumer organizations. I wish all ISP's were so evil.
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scr33d
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Sheesh! Tragically all the rungs of that ladder (telecomm, FCC, Congress) are fat and happy with the status quo and the bottom rung (us) has no place voice our... um, displeasure.
And to those that say, "I've got 3Mbps for a good price..." well remember there are other countries getting 15, 40 or 100 Mbps for similar rates.
Scr33d's Quick Capsule review: US Telecomm sucks! |
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sonofjay
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Re: Anyone Suprised?
said by GNXPower :
$50 a month? Who charges that any more? Not even Comcrap tops $50 a month any more.
Comcast charges $59 here in MA or $62 if you rent a modem. There are bundled discounts but that's their base which is why I dropped them.
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LordBritish
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1 edit | $50 at lot, how about $90 !!
I pay $94/month (including taxes) for 1500/768 ADSL service from Speakeasy.net.
Yep, it is too much even with real static IPs - I do NOT use PPoE at all. |
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GNXPower
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Re: Anyone Suprised?
I forgot about that...and it sucks. Wonder where my bundling discount was...I was paying the same $43 before and after the advent of these so called discounts.
Penalties is more like it. Anti-DBS penalties.
Glad I ditchen them for DSL...30% cheaper for similar speed.
But my point was, speeds here are getting faster and prices cheaper. Comcrap was definately a bad example. My bad. It just seems to me that people for the most part can get broadband, they simply don't want it, at any price.
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TACSPEED
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$50 a month? Who charges that any more
How about Qwest with MSN, $44.95 plus an additional 10 bucks a month for their bloated phone package. Net charge, 10 bucks plus 44.95 for a grand total of 54.95 per month.
This does not include the fact that you have to have Qwest's basic phone service at about 13 bucks a month plus fees and taxes to even get DSL!!!
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Re: Celebrate the freedom of choice
said by GNXPower :
...and in a lot of countries the government aids in deployment rather than being an over-regulating, over-taxing burden on business.
...Squeeze us all into major cities, get the gov't off the backs of business and we would have 100% deployment too.
eh. you place too much burden on "government" when in actuality it is the broadband players that are happy with the status quo. |
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garagerock
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| Well, I'm waiting...
For the folks who'll point out the glaringly obvious...South Korea is smaller, has much more population density, etc.
To which I say-HORSESHIT. So what? We can on about going back to the moon, again, and to Mars...billions of dollars later, and we're in 11th place. So much for being the best at everything.
Only when broadband is considered a utility will we ever get past this nonsensical, last-mile intensive Who-hash.
And before the flaming starts with "it's a luxury!", isn't telephone, electricity, WATER service all luxuries? Go somewhere outside of your cul de sac (like Central America, for instance) and you'll see what I mean. |
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Spore Cloud
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Burleson, TX
| AOL to blame?
I wonder, if AOL never came into excistance, if there would be more broadband users.. Just think about all the people on AOL for a second, if these people had started with some sort of local dial-up ISP I think they would understand more about what broadband has to offer them instead by being out there on the public internet instead of being spoon fed what AOL shows the average AOL consumer. |
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GNXPower
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1 edit | reply to TACSPEED
Re: Anyone Suprised?
What else you want to add on there? How about the electric bill. The VAST majority of people already have POTS and as you state, even the bloated Qwest with MSN isn't more than $50.
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AuroraJock
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| USA today also reported...
that South Korea was costing the US motion picture agency millions per year in lost revenue.
»www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techp···cy_x.htm
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a correlation between excessive bandwidth at cheap prices and high piracy rates among users. There are 2 sides to every coin - as the internet gets faster, people use it more. Online shopping gets more convenient, and brick and mortar stores suffer.
Every fiber advocates dream seems to be having a 100megabit fiber pipe to the home for $15 so they don't ever have to get out of bed anymore... |
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tigers
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Irmo, SC | Another of these articles?
The sky is falling. 
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jdir
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Santa Clara, CA | And I can not get broadband
Ugh - too far to get DSL |
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GNXPower
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Re: Well, I'm waiting...
said by garagerock :
And before the flaming starts with "it's a luxury!", isn't telephone, electricity, WATER service all luxuries? Go somewhere outside of your cul de sac (like Central America, for instance) and you'll see what I mean.
What is the alternative for electricity and water?
While internet access for some may be a necessity, fast internet access is no doubt a luxury.
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to garagerock
Yep. If that's true that it's all about population density, then you should be seeing it in big cities at least. But you aren't. The only real place you are seeing high speed FTTH is mostly with municipalities that are tired of waiting. |
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tidal
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Re: And I can not get broadband
i'm not surprised we're behind |
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bonnyman
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Rome, GA | But none of these other countries is building ...
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