Kaltes
Premium
join:2002-12-04
Los Angeles, CA
| Good
Looks like the ISPs have finally figured out that the RIAA is not on their side. Now that the RIAA can't bully them in court, the ISPs figured out how to stand up to them.
All that is left is to make an ISPAA to stand up to the RIAA collectively in legal battles in congress and the courts. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Throw a rock at Goliath! |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | it's probably both a pain and a chore for isps to do that. good for isps, bad for riaa. and lets hope it stays that way. |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
Premium
join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
clubs:  | reply to Kaltes
This is great. The ISP's no longer have to bow down to the RIAA. |
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HiVolt
30
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs: | reply to 53059959
Great. F!@# the RIAA and their tactics. |
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Dragasoni
We're All Mad Here
Premium
join:2001-12-14
Rotonda West, FL
| Great!
This is excellent news. I for one DID support the RIAA until I saw the tactics they were using to "stop" this P2P madness. Taking 60 people in the country to court doesn't solve anything. What is $100,000 to the RIAA? It's about 25 cents to us, that's what it is.
I understand that this material we trade is copyrighted by them, and they own this content. But I honestly think the biggest cause for the RIAA's lose of money is the economy. We are still is a recession, and until we come completely out of it, sales are going to be lower across the board...this includes CD sales.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem buying CD's. But I only buy CD's that are worth it, like Better Than Ezra. You see, I can listen to the entire CD and enjoy every song on it.
However, just from listening to the radio in my car 2 hours each day, I hear the same 5 songs over and over again. What makes you think I'm going to buy that crap, when I'm sick of it...let alone download it!
The stunts the RIAA is pulling are wrong, and they need to focus their attention on the economy...not the few heavy file traders out there.
How about lowering the prices of CD's???? Now there's an idea, make CD's more affordable to people suffering from this recession rather than attacking file traders.
My 2 cents...
-Dragasoni-
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mskittykat
Reality Bites...So I'm Back
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Great News!
In all honesty, this is the way that the RIAA should've went about with their tactics in the first place. Creating awarness rather than fear would've gotten them alot farther.
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rsa0
join:2003-01-25
Birmingham, AL | reply to Kaltes
Re: Good
Stop buying CDs...hit them where it hurts. They are fighting a loosing battle. If the prices would be reasonable, then I would buy, but now...they are GREEDY. |
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Logan 5
Some people go WAY over the top
Premium,MVM
join:2001-05-25
The WasteLAN
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  Glad to see it
Nice to see the ISP's finally have enough legal muscle to have a spine again and be able to stand up to the RIAA's bullyboy tactics without fear of breaking some obscure law.
Let's hope that this is just the first shot aimed at taking away the almighty power of the RIAA to do what it wants when it wants and make them accountable for their actions just like every other company in the land who abuses their power or position in their industry.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Kaltes
Re: Good
My guess is they didn't like being the RIAA whipping boys.
When you come in with strong arm tactics after saying you want to work with someone, you lose all credibility and no one wants to help someone who loves to show their arrogance.
Now, it is time for the RIAA to jump through hoops and play by the rules. |
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elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs: | Ha! Ha!
In a Nelson Muntz voice, "Ha! Ha!"
-- Elias |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | reply to rsa0
Re: Good
And your NOT greedy for wanting free music??? |
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Mrq5
The Fab Four
join:1999-08-21
Warren, MI
1 edit | reply to elias
Re: Ha! Ha!
If RIAA could have their way there wouldnt be an Internet AT ALL:) All RIAA wants is to shift broadband profits back to them, just a simple shifting of $$$.
Why would any ISP go for this unless legally forced! Of course ISP's dont want to do anything that can potentially LOOSE paying subcribers and profits. Loss profits in the form of all the extra overhead that would be needed to police such actions. ISP's would be setting themselves up for a public relations nightmare if just 1 customer who was put through the ringer actually was trading LEGAL content, which was initially assumed to be illegal.
Word of mouth is still the BEST advertisement many ISP's have, even the big ISP's like SBC. All it takes is for a few customers to start spreading the news that XXX ISP is on the RIAA side and will be tracking your every second on the Internet. |
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Counterstric
I Was Here
join:2002-07-18
| I think the real reason ISPs are fighting is
They do not want to play traffic cop on the internet, if they do to some extent they become responsible for their subscribers activities it puts them in a bad legal position. It is much better for ISPs and customers that ISPs do not play gatekeeper to the internet.
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TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| reply to ronpin
Re: Good
said by ronpin  :
And your NOT greedy for wanting free music???
Where did he say he wanted free music? Just because he says "don't buy CDs" doesn't necessarily mean he's downloading music. |
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tomkb
Premium
join:2000-11-15
Avon, OH
clubs: | It's not in ISP's interests
Why bite the hand that feeds you? What else do average joe consumers want broadband for except to download?
Also, why invite all the administrative headaches riaa requests will bring?
What's the incentive for ISP's to give a crap? |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | reply to TheWickerMan
Re: Good
Uh right...he's involved in this discussion because he dislikes music in general...uh...yeah..OK |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | The poster did mention that they would buy CD's if prices were reasonable. I wish some of you would read the ENTIRE post before passing judgement. |
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to TheWickerMan
said by TheWickerMan :
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Just because he says "don't buy CDs" doesn't necessarily mean he's downloading music.
Good point, I don't download much of anything and I've bought *very* few CDs these last few years. The RIAA didn't help convince me otherwise either. First they try to freeze out used CD dealers, then they settle a huge a huge anti-trust suit, then they start suing individuals right and left for exhorbitant sums of money. I'll vote with my $$ because it's all they understand.
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | reply to SRFireside
Geesh...the criminal mind...
So if I think new car prices are unreasonable then I have the right to "aquire" one through other means???
Maybe we need to read our own posts first? |
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