 DSLDawg23
join:2003-08-08
| Hmm...
Verizon has settled the suit with customers, but denies having done anything wrong. Why doesn't that surprise me? I wonder if this will spur people in PA to try and get the $2 billion that Verizon stole from them back somehow... |
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  J D McDorce Premium join:2001-12-29 Westland, MI
| Verizon has settled the suit with customers, but denies having done anything wrong. I've seen similar verbiage in every class action settlement that has landed in my mailbox over the past 10 years (none of which were from Verizon). |
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  woody7 Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| Hmmmmmmmmm
can you hear us now         -- BlooMe |
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 g_smooth2k
join:2003-09-25 Greenville, SC | Hey
Verizon Can you hear us now? Good Can you hear us now? Good Can you hear me & us now? Bad |
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  BIGMIKE Premium join:2002-06-07 Westminster, CA 1 edit | NOW Verizon? joust going to charge people more for service. |
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  Shrapnel64 Premium join:2001-01-24 Hayes, VA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Cox HSI
| said by BIGMIKE : NOW Verizon? joust going to charge people more for service.
I wouldn't be so sure about charging more for the same services...not only are they the best provider out there in many areas of the nation...but now that the new law has been passed so that you can take your number anywhere, there is a lot of open places for businesses; some not as reliable, some won't even be as reliable but that's a chance you take. -- Jason Brousseau Rampage Services, Inc www.RampageHosting.com brousseau@rampagehosting.com |
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  dogma Premium join:2002-08-15 Boulder City, NV
| There is only ONE winner in a "Class Action" suit
...and that would be the lawyers representing the plaintiff class.
The lawyers get 20% to 40% of any settlement in most cases since they work on a "contingency basis". So, if there are 5 million consumers in this class, multiplied by $45, that settlement would be about $225 Million. At 30%, the law firm[s] get $67.5 million, and each consumer gets (about) $45 in cash/credit.
What a joke. Moreover, since Verizon is such a big company, and since this action dates back to 1991 (156 Months ago), even the $225 Million figure is misleading. There is a finance model called Net Present Value (NPV). Basically, say a can of cola cost 10 cents in 1970, and now it cost $1, means my $1 could buy 10 times more 34 years ago. That $1 was more valuable then than now. So the $225 Million that Verizon ripped consumers off for in 1991 is now really only worth about $173 Million (at 2% inflation/yr). There do not seem to be any punitive damages in this settlement, since Verizon can still claim "no wrong doing", so it was in essence a zero interest $225 loan consumers gave Verizon during that time period, where only $173 Million had to be paid back (only because they got caught)
Have fun with your $45. |
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 DonLibes Premium,ExMod 2001 join:2003-01-19
| They should be sued again
Verizon's fees and charges are STILL poorly explained - I'll frequently hear different reps tell me different charges for the same thing. And their charging algorithms for airtime are extremely difficult to understand. None of this stuff is on their website. And it's not surprising when they overcharge given that a lot of their own employees don't understand their rates and how they are implemented or interpreted.
I have yet to find a subscriber who can go through their itemized Verizon cellular bill and understand everything that's on there.
They should be sued again. |
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 lesopp
join:2001-06-27 Land O Lakes, FL | Shocked (Not)
Just imagine, a large telecommunications company ripping off their customers through inadequate explanations and deceit. Who'd of thought that possible? |
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  Geminimind Premium join:2003-12-20 Sacramento, CA | reply to BIGMIKE Re: Hey
NOBODY has service as good as verizon wireless. Other companies claim they do. So what about a lawsuit. I have never had problems with my bill,or my service. |
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  BIGMIKE Premium join:2002-06-07 Westminster, CA
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Haw Mende, of you got ENE money back from MICROSOFT, fore the California class action settlement Lawsuits it $1.1 billion, if no one claims it MICROSOFT keep the money, I check my mail every day fore that $1.1 billion i have not it got yet. |
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 jimahrens
join:2002-05-30 Owego, NY | Verisucks has the best wireless in all tests verisucks has the worst customer service and the billing department is smoking rope |
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  GNXPower Got Boost? Premium join:2003-12-18 Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Geminimind Re: Hey
Having had Verizon wireless I wholeheartedly disagree with your claims of Verizon superiority. I had them, they sucked. Mistakes in billing, bad CS, dropped calls, limited service areas...they were a nightmare. |
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  cbcalhoun Premium join:2000-09-04 Heath, OH
·Windstream
| You will have many people who...
said by jimahrens : Verisucks has the best wireless in all tests verisucks has the worst customer service and the billing department is smoking rope
said by GNXPower : Having had Verizon wireless I wholeheartedly disagree with your claims of Verizon superiority. I had them, they sucked. Mistakes in billing, bad CS, dropped calls, limited service areas...they were a nightmare.
disagree... These kind of comments will be found with every service provider by at least one or more person. You will simply take your business elsewere... I personally have had Verizon for over 4 years, out in the sticks and have never once had a minute of trouble...
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  viperpa33s Why Me? Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| Happy with Verizon
I have had Verizon wireless for almost 2 years now and never had a problem with customer service, billing, or lack of calling areas. In April my contract with Verizon is up and I will be definitely signing up for another 2 years with Verizon.
I use to have Sprint Wireless before switching to Verizon. I do have to say Sprint Wireless sucks. Sprints customer service has allot to be desired. The calling area for Sprint is small. Driving from western New Jersey to New York City, my Sprint phone dropped calls 10 times due to lack of signal area. When I drove from New Jersey to Kentucky my Verizon phone dropped a signal only 1 time.
I am sure many people had problems with Verizon or else there wouldn't of been a lawsuit. As with all companies, people will have bad and good experiences. I never knew there was even a lawsuit until I got a email saying what the result of the lawsuit was. Doesn't matter to me if I get anything from the lawsuit or not cause I am very happy with them at the moment. |
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  klamer
join:2000-06-09 Fort Worth, TX
| reply to Geminimind Re: Hey
Just wanted to jump in myself and give a big thumbs up to the Verizon wireless network. I used to have AT&T, liked the no roaming no long distance but it seemed like I was always looking for a good cell. With VZ, I don't recall a time where I have not been able to receive a signal. Signal is clear and no billing issues (so far ) |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA
| reply to dogma Re: There is only ONE winner in a "Class Action" s
ahh, but it makes people feel better. Who cares that some sleazy lawyer walks off with enough money to buy a small-medium sized country, money which is financed by the customers via price increases.
the lawyer gets rich
the customer gets a trinket and the satisfaction of sticking it to the man.
the company gets off without having to admit fault
Everybody wins... everyone except for those of us who have half a brain and see class action as the sham it is. -- Infogrames != Atari |
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  Dragasoni We're All Mad Here Premium join:2001-12-14 Rotonda West, FL
| reply to klamer Re: Hey
I found Alltel Wireless to be much better then Verizon Wireless in the Tampa Bay area. I actually made a phone call, on Alltel, when I was in Tampa. I was able to drive to Lake City, FL which about 300 miles away without getting dropped! My signal didn't fade, and I don't have an external antenna either, Go Alltel!
Not to mention I have 1000 peak minutes, unlimited nights, weekends, text messaging, long distance, and mobile to mobile for $39.95 a month with the whole state of Florida being my local area. Yes, you read correctly, unlimited on all those services above! Have a look: »www.alltel.com/promotions/wirele···dex.html
I attempted the same thing with but Cingular and Verizon and I got dropped about 5 times with each in Sumter County and Alachua County.
Yes I know, I use the cell phone entirely too much, nearly 5,000 minutes a month total. 
-Dragasoni- -- »www.dragasoni.com |
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 Cjacks
join:2002-10-12 Bristol, VA
| reply to viperpa33s Re: Happy with Verizon
I can understand your point of view. I use Verizon for all my telecom needs and I am content. However, even if you are and have been happy, would be good to stick together and support the apparently many consumers who did get taken by getting your $$$ and leting verizon know the consumers are sticking together. That is how we all will get the best bang for our dollar. Just a thought. |
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  J D McDorce Premium join:2001-12-29 Westland, MI
| reply to dogma Re: There is only ONE winner in a "Class Action" suit
said by dogma : since this action dates back to 1991
That alone should make it interesting to figure out who is eligible for what. Since 1991, what is currently Verizon Wireless in the Detroit area was Cellular One and then Airtouch Cellular (which becomes more even more interesting, since the Verizon suit looks remarkably similar to one that Airtouch settled in 1996). Then there's the Bell Atlantic Mobile account (not in the Detroit area) that I had in 1993 and 1994... |
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