  borborpa Slipping Slowly Into Oblivion Premium join:2002-02-20 New Cumberland, PA clubs: | They need to impose the death penalty...
for all spammers. This country is too lenient on all criminals, drunk drivers, murderers, etc. |
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  technick Premium join:2000-12-16 Loganville, GA
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This dude never learns.. though I think it's funny he's taking a break.. Must have been a little to intense huh..
People like this just need to get canned...
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  reub2000 Premium join:2001-12-28 Evanston, IL | reply to borborpa Re: They need to impose the death penalty...
To give a spamer a lethal injection would be too quick. I sugest something where they're slowly killed over a couple of weeks. |
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  callihn4
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| said by reub2000 : To give a spamer a lethal injection would be too quick. I sugest something where they're slowly killed over a couple of weeks.
LOL!! Yea, they can check my email for a few weeks, i am sure that will make them commit suicide. 8) -- If Operating Systems Were Women? : »www.sigkill.com/os/ |
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Can we extend the definition of spam to people who ring your doorbell twice and knock for 2 minutes at 6:30am on sunday morning trying to sell you firewood?
I got two of those this last sunday. I generally just tell them we don't need it, but that early on a sunday must be worthy of more than just a negative answer. |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA | reply to callihn4 Re: They need to impose the death penalty...
Hmmm.... How about turning them into human spam filters? With some sort of shock for every spam they let through? Punishment AND irony all rolled into one!  |
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  Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI
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This guy really disgusts me.
Not only does he brag about is $740,000 home or the fact that he spams heavily, but he also brags about the fact he will continue to spam. He is, by letter of the law, untouchable. Sure, the Can Spam act sets rules up, but it won't stop the spam. I can't believe that Bush supported that bill. I guess special interest groups had his ears, maybe even Mr. Ralsky himself.
Let your elected officials know about this and how much you hate spam. Make your vote count. Until a solution comes up, get an email address and use it for spam. That is what I do to stop the flow of spam and it works great. -- My Domain Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal |
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  Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI
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| reply to jeffbrantley Re: Spam at your front door
said by jeffbrantley : Can we extend the definition of spam to people who ring your doorbell twice and knock for 2 minutes at 6:30am on sunday morning trying to sell you firewood?
I got two of those this last sunday. I generally just tell them we don't need it, but that early on a sunday must be worthy of more than just a negative answer.
I love the morons that ignore the no soliciting signs and do the same thing. I had more than a couple door to door salesmen I had to point this fact out to. In addition, the people trying to "save" me by distrubuting bibles and religious literature should also stop doing so and interrupting me. It doesn't happen often, but often enough to be annoying and a waste of my time. -- My Domain Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal |
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  Glenn I'D Rather Be Skiing Premium join:2000-10-05 Wallingford, CT
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quote: But he has not sent a single message over the Internet in the last few weeks.
Does this explain why my spam has been down significantly?
Someone needs to find that clown's e-mail address and sign him up for every possible e-mail list on the internet.
I really don't understand that guy's logic. How is hijacking someones computer to send garbage "legit"? |
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  Varangian
join:2002-12-08 Collinsville, IL | reply to jeffbrantley Re: Spam at your front door
I'd say that's a little past spam.. If anyone approaches my quarters at that hour Ill get the pleasure of watching the dogs chew them up before the police arrive. |
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 ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28 Tucker, GA | reply to borborpa Re: They need to impose the death penalty...
Why, just get a collection plate going and I am sure someone would be willing to 'can' his aS$! |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA
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Ah, but the one good thing the article says is that he will have to identify, in each spam message, where it is coming from (a physical address). This will make it easier to filter. So spammers that follow the law will be easily filtered and ones that don't will stand a better chance of passing through the filters. I predict that most spammers will ignore the law and risk federal prosecution or the major spamming operations will move offshore, out of the feds reach. -- -Jason Levine http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/ http://www.PCQandA.com/ http://www.urateit.com/ |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA
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said by a slimy spammer: "E-mail marketing is a good thing," Mr. Battles said. "I create jobs. But the media has made e-mail out to be some sort of terrorist plot."
(Sarcasm mode: ON) You know, burglars create jobs too. They mess up homes which requires the homeowners to buy more merchandise which creates jobs. Not to mention the insurance agents and police that might be out of work if there weren't any burglars. Let's all cheer those burglars on! (Sarcasm mode: OFF)
Honestly, e-mail marketing IS a good thing, but only when opt-in procedures are followed. (True opt-in, with clearly marked means of unsubscribing.) Simply sending e-mails to everyone with an inbox in order to get the few who may be interested in your product is not a good way to market products or services. -- -Jason Levine http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/ http://www.PCQandA.com/ http://www.urateit.com/ |
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  Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI
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| reply to Jason Levine Re: Arrogant piece of slime
said by Jason Levine : Ah, but the one good thing the article says is that he will have to identify, in each spam message, where it is coming from (a physical address). This will make it easier to filter. So spammers that follow the law will be easily filtered and ones that don't will stand a better chance of passing through the filters. I predict that most spammers will ignore the law and risk federal prosecution or the major spamming operations will move offshore, out of the feds reach.
I will believe that when I see it. I can see these spammers still faking addresses and domains. I am sure there are grey areas they will use to get around this law. I hope you are right though, but I am not getting rid of my dedicated spam address just yet. 
BTW, that hotmail account gets close to 100 mail messages a day and not one of them are legit. -- My Domain Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal |
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  Tomek Premium join:2002-01-30 Brooklyn, NY | reply to jeffbrantley Re: Spam
Just place a sign at Ur frontyard: "Tresspassers will be shot without warning". And throw couple of shells on Ur grass. -- There are 3200 types of people.Those who understand HEX and those who don't. |
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1 edit | said by Tomek : Just place a sign at Ur frontyard: "Tresspassers will be shot without warning". And throw couple of shells on Ur grass.
My dad had a better idea. He is a military man if that tells you anything. He was thinking about building a couple pillboxes to the sides at the end of his driveway. In each pillbox, he has no soliciting signs with the same warnings along with a couple M60 machine guns. At least, that would be his dream setup, besides having the guns automated and a gate so he can shoot solicitors without having to walk down there and man the gun himself.  -- My Domain Nightfall's Hockey and Life Journal |
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  Rejected One I Suffer From Id10t Errors Premium join:2003-07-31 Wilmington, DE clubs:  | reply to Nightfall Re: Spam at your front door
i just open the door with my 12ga aimed at his head and ask can they read the no soliciting sign lol |
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 wentlanc You Can't Fix Dumb..
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said by Nightfall : I can't believe that Bush supported that bill. I guess special interest groups had his ears, maybe even Mr. Ralsky himself.
Let your elected officials know about this and how much you hate spam. Make your vote count.
It was your elected officials, not Mr. Bush, who created and got the law passed. 99% of them, in fact. Even if Bush vetoed the law, it would have been passed when it got back to the house and senate anyway. I hate hearing the Bush bashing when in fact he really had little to do with it. But as a president, you do not vote against something that has the approval of 99% of the House and Senate. That would just be politically dumb.
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  Tactics Green Lantern
join:2001-03-29 Pinehurst, NC
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quote: They need to impose the death penalty...
Wow took the words right out of my mouth. I agree %100 This guy first needs all his fingers broken and then all his teeth knocked out for good measure.  |
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 iwantbw
join:2003-12-30 Cotati, CA
1 edit | spammers do suck, but this law sucks, too
The thing I worry about with this law is that it could easily be used against people who most savvy net users would not consider spammers. And yet I don't think it will do alot about most spam, except help move more of it offshore. If you are a business and don't follow the rules its seems like you could break the law by not having all of your contact info in your emails, etc.
Disclaimer so I don't get flamed: I don't condone spamming or doing any other "bad things" on the net.
The problem is that the very vague and flexible-for-law-enforcement definition of "bad things" has become too broad - Why? In the beginning of most laws/systems, it is an attempt to provide a way to nail people that they can easy get to, like terrorists - so they keep casting a wider and wider net, because criminals are slippery characters. But there are too many dolphins and whatever being caught in these nets:
•The Patriot Act et al - crystal meth maker charged for creating "chemical weapons" »www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n191···bull;the DMCA - researchers unwilling to publish research, see »www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/unintended_c···nces.php for lots more, •the super-DMCA's being pushed by the RIAA in many states - a software developer in IL pulled his spam and virus fighting software (initial studies »www.hackbusters.net/AAWP.pdf look promising for this type of technology to make spamming unprofitable) due to fear of being prosecuted under the super-DMCA there »www.hackbusters.net/#software , •Proposed law backed by law enforcement for the gathering of DNA samples from arrested, but uncharged and unconvicted individuals in CA - "We promise if the charges are dropped we will destroy the records of the DNA" - yeah, right,•etc.
It may seem absurd now (as it would have been if I said a meth maker would be charged as a chemical weapons maker before the Patriot Act), but I wonder if after a few misguided applications of the CAN SPAM law against non-spammers that some legitimate business will alter their policies about responding to email queries. |
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