calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Cable's own fault....
Once again, ATT cable started this with the lawsuit against the City of Portland, which forced the 9th Circuit's hand in this case.
Nothing as much fun as watching monopolists hung on their own petard!
Calvoiper
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inteller
@nuvox.n
| dont want regulation, DO want cooperation
I think if the FCC used regulation as a threat to push more openness that would be the best scenario. I don't want to get taxed on a regulated cable system, but I would like to see cable companies partner up or offer ISP choices cause their existing services SUCK! If I could divert $10 of my cable bill to go towards MSN or Earthlink for ISP services instead of Cox I would LEAP at the opportunity. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
 ·AT&T Southwest
2 edits | Shortsighted
If Pickrell would take all the money he's spending to avoid building his own fiber infrastructure -- and just lay some fiber -- he could obviate both the Cable and Telco copper plants in his service area. I don't believe in short-sighted ways to save money. In the long run we'll all be better-off if providers are forced to build their own infrastructure. What's more, why will anyone improve their current infrastrure if they have to give away business to competitors. There are better ways to enhance competition than the socialistic way of forced sharing of infrastructure ('wonder if Pickrell would mind sharing his new fiber with the Cable company?) |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Well, his $50,000 wouldn't even buy a block of buried conduit and fiber. I don't know who might get service within a block of whatever collo hotel he uses now, but it wouldn't be me or you, I'm sure.
Calvoiper
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to inteller
Re: dont want regulation, DO want cooperation
said by inteller:
I think if the FCC used regulation as a threat to push more openness that would be the best scenario.
...and I'm all for Motherhood, apple pie, and good sidewalks too. The problem is, the FCC hasn't really pushed openness in ANY network since Reed Hundt was forced out as Chairman (by President Clinton, who replaced him with Kennard--a near ultimate "don't rock any boats" guy.)
The FCC seems to use regulation now only to squelch competition against the established monopolies. Since they have embraced the "two competitors is good enough" approach (telco and cable) it's doubtful that this FCC would ever have expanded cellular competition beyond two players.
Remember how the cellular duopolies of the '80's and '90's kept prices high before PCS blew the cartel open? Yep, that sort of duopoly is the likely result of this FCC's approach to competition.
Calvoiper
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................
If the law says you have to share................why not share..........this isn't about sharing per say.....its about not being classified as a telecom service........its about greed....noncompetiveness.............unregulation........and um..........whining greed..........
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL | What are you trying to say? |
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dyehard
join:2002-05-12
Phoenixville, PA | I want to be able to choose
I want to be able to choose what cable co to use |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to joebear29
Re: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................
If they are classified as an "information service" they keep their lines to themselves, less or no regulation, competitive edge over the Telcos..oh never mind....and besides, depending on what city you live in you don't have a choice over cable providers, even if a competing cable company decided/wanted to start up in a city already with cable, it would never be allowed to happen...............
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | ...too much 420?
Calvoiper |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | reply to dyehard
Re: I want to be able to choose
Me too, but that just isn't likely. Until the local loop providers are forced to be infrastructure only providers, there will never be a real choice. |
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hoyleysox
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA | reply to calvoiper
Re: Cable's own fault....
Cable isn't a monopoly. You can get your TV from analog broadcasts and satellite. |
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hoyleysox
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA | reply to calvoiper
Re: dont want regulation, DO want cooperation
Do you think DirecTV should have to share their network? |
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gmind16
| reply to calvoiper
Re: Cable's own fault....
Infotelecommuication service |
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hoyleysox
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA | reply to dyehard
Re: I want to be able to choose
What cable company would you choose?
Maybe everyone should decide which cable company is best and have that company run the entire network. |
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tonekilla
Pipe Dreams
Premium
join:2003-07-26
Gunnison, MS
clubs:
1 edit | very bad idea. I can see the constant stream of bullshit coming from that overgrown monopoly now. whew. How could you wish for anything like that? |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to inteller
Re: dont want regulation, DO want cooperation
said by inteller  :
I think if the FCC used regulation as a threat to push more openness that would be the best scenario. I don't want to get taxed on a regulated cable system, but I would like to see cable companies partner up or offer ISP choices cause their existing services SUCK! If I could divert $10 of my cable bill to go towards MSN or Earthlink for ISP services instead of Cox I would LEAP at the opportunity.
Cable internet service is already bad enough. do people really want to add that layer of fingerpointing that DSL currently has? (Anyone thats had an issue with their MSN isp over their Qwest line would know how frustrating the 'DSL/ISP pinball machine' can be)
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nctimaster
join:2002-11-28
Charleston, WV
| reply to tonekilla
Re: I want to be able to choose
In the same you cant choose your local phone service only your long distance in essence your local cable is the same. land line or cell phone? cable or direct tv?????? and yes anyone can build their own cable in any town if they want the same with telephone its just to expensive to do that only harrase, the already existing company that has more money invested. than the cheap bastards that are wasting their money fighting wanting a piece of the pie for NOTHING! |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to ronpin
Re: Shortsighted
said by ronpin :
There are better ways to enhance competition than the socialistic way of forced sharing of infrastructure
Amen to that. My cable bill is high enough. I don't want to see it raised to pay for someone else's unworkable business model.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to hoyleysox
Re: Cable's own fault....
Regardless of what cable is or isn't, it's largely run by monopolists, i.e., people who believe in and work to either achieve or maintain a monopoly.
My statement stands.
Calvoiper
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