joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL |  Damn shame
It is really sad nothing could be worked out. |
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HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO | ya this is. It's really sad. Once again i's big business screwin the indy musician..... |
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pianotech
Pianotech
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join:2002-12-30
New Castle, PA
| said by HotRodFoto  :
ya this is. It's really sad. Once again i's big business screwin the indy musician.....
How can you say that? Cnet is starting their own indie musician place which launches in January '04. Have you ever stopped to think that legally, Cnet could not buy the library? The mp3.com artist agreement I signed gave mp3.com rights to the music in exchange for hosting web pages. No hosting web pages = no more rights. I'm guessing that getting permission to archive mp3.com's 5 terabytes worth of files would have been a logistic nightmare, since they would have had to get permission from each and every artist, so they decided to start from scratch.
Any artist wishing to re-upload their music to the new site (or any of the other dozens of online indie sites) is free to do so, so what's the big deal?
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pianotech
Pianotech
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join:2002-12-30
New Castle, PA
1 edit | Plus, remember that MR SOLD mp3.com to VU, a member of the RIAA, yet now when it's good pr, he takes a stand for the indie musician.
At least Cnet is not a member of the RIAA and not part of the big 5 record cartel; so why not wait and see if it ends up being BETTER for the indie musician than VU was??
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treetop1000
join:2003-11-07
Lexington, KY
| Invoke the DRM against VIVENDI!!!
Apparently the music and entertainment industryhas -NO- scruples. Not surprising. I wonder if they've thought of the legal hot water they'll now find themselves in after they allow -digital original content that they did not author or create- to be erased. All it will take is just one artist to complain to the feds that his art was treated
as trash and disposed of without informing him. Just wait.
Artists rights indeed. Original content protection indeed.
Just another example of corporations that are only in it for the money.
I see a landmark FEDERAL "fair use" legal case coming squarely at those crimmy music industry execs. |
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Synon29
join:2003-09-13
Cabot, AR | reply to pianotech
Re: Damn shame
I would have to agree with you here pianotech. I think we can at least give cnet a chance and see what they end up doing. |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
clubs:  | reply to joebear29
that's a lot of data that is just going to be deleted. They can send a few hard drives my way if they want.
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cyberthugin
join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY |  Derr
Well if he was smart, he should of copied the database and not tell anyone. |
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
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join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA | 5 terabytes' worth? It might be hard to do that inconspicuously. |
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nickpdx
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join:2003-10-19
Portland, OR | 5 tb ? piece of cake. 
it is too bad that nothing could be worked out to save all the music  |
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
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join:2002-09-22
Naperville, IL
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| Hell, there's about 8 petabytes of stored data where I work. I'm sure we have some extra space around here... 
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xmrocks
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join:2003-09-23
clubs: | reply to Omega
Re: Damn shame
That's what I'm thinking They destroyed about 5 Terabytes if I remember correctly. That is a shame though... |
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nil
Java Geek
join:2000-11-27
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I think the main problem here is that it's just such a shame so much music will be destroyed.. There's a very good chance some percentage of it will never be heard again.
Sure, same thing happens on daily basis with music that is never recorded or written down.. but if in this case it's highly preventable.
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Topmounter
Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | reply to nickpdx
Re: Derr
Actually i am surprised that it is only 5 TB.
With current storage technology, even with a server to run it, 5 TB is less than half a rack of disks.
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Theo2002
join:2002-02-28
Clermont, FL
1 edit | reply to treetop1000
Re: Invoke the DRM against VIVENDI!!!
They are covered by the agreement the artists had to sign upon joining mp3.com - basically they exchanged free space, CD duplication & bandwidth for a commission. MP3.com reserved the right to terminate the agreement at any point.
I miss the good or odd stuff I'd find on mp3.com |
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pianotech
Pianotech
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join:2002-12-30
New Castle, PA
1 edit | reply to treetop1000
said by treetop1000 :
Apparently the music and entertainment industryhas -NO- scruples. Not surprising. I wonder if they've thought of the legal hot water they'll now find themselves in after they allow -digital original content that they did not author or create- to be erased. All it will take is just one artist to complain to the feds that his art was treated
as trash and disposed of without informing him. Just wait.
Artists rights indeed. Original content protection indeed.
Just another example of corporations that are only in it for the money.
I see a landmark FEDERAL "fair use" legal case coming squarely at those crimmy music industry execs.
That's too funny! You are alleging that ERASING music is illegal?? Even funnier, you purport that it would NOT be illegal for the same company to make copies of files they did not own or create!!
Did you even think this through before posting?
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
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I'll bet....
I really don't think much will be lost. I would think the
artists that had there tracks on MP-3 would have also posted them at other music sharing sites. Frankly some of this stuff isn't going to be missed.
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
·DSL EXTREME
·Brand X Internet
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| Boycott Cnet and Vivendi!
If this upsets you, boycott them! If you and a million others do, they'll feel it. See, we've all become a million individuals instead of a group of a million people. This is what the Politicians WANT! It's what big business WANTS! They WANT us isolated. That way we're no threat to them! HOWEVER...a GROUP of a million (or two or three) becomes a GREAT threat.
This is how unions work. Whether you believe in them or not (and quite frankly, it's not germane to this discussion), no one disputes the POWER that a big union wields. They do this by ALLYING individuals into one big GROUP! When the NRA speaks, the politicians LISTEN! Do you really think that last weeks Medicare vote in Congress would have passed without intense lobbying by the AARP?
Despite what you might have learned in American history your senior year in high school, the individual is DEAD in our new millennium. These days, the only power comes from NUMBERS! Why do you think the RIAA is picking off a few of us at a time? Because they know that by scaring individuals in this way, the rest of us will fall into line! But, if a million of us or so would say: RIAA, if you sue one of us, you sue ALL of us, and we stood together, (and boycotted them too) they'd drop this crap literally overnight! |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY
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1 edit | Well...
I'm sure all the artists that don't have hard copies (ie CDs or on their hard drives) of their music must be really angry seeing their sample pages go down on Mp3.com
Oh yes, Valve software's publisher is Vivendi, so if you buy HL or CS, I believe you also supporting a RIAA member. Bleh, thank goodness I uninstalled HL (not cause of this, but because of Steaming pile of shit.)
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
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join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA | reply to cyberthugin
Re: Derr
I'm not denying that it's technically possible. I'm saying it might be hard for one guy to pull it off unnoticed. |
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