PhragX
join:2001-11-01 | justice
Serves him right. I wonder how you catch something like that though... |
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Unit649
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join:2000-01-22
Stockton, CA
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| Blah....
No matter how he did it, downloading child porn is just plain bad-I hope this guy gets locked up for a while, not for the wardriving, but for what he was actually doing with it.
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ObdH
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join:2003-06-11
1 edit | bs
wardriving isnt a crime |
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xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
2 edits | i read a related article earlier this week...
the man was nude from the waist down. --
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Also apparently driving on the wrong side of the street at five in the morning.... |
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addicted to p2p mp3
@pacbell.n
| is it illegal (will i get caught)
Is it illegal to download mp3 on p2p from neighbors house???
dont want to use my own so RIAA wont bug...
but since there is an open WI-FI next door can i use it?
how about the free municipal WI-FI in Long Beach CA city for mp3's? |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
|  reply to PhragX
He got caught by:
"The case began two weeks ago Wednesday, at 5 a.m., when Sgt. Don Woods of 11 Division noticed a vehicle driving the wrong way down a one-way street in a residential neighbourhood.
When Woods stopped the car, he noticed the driver, a man, was naked from the waist down. In the car was a laptop computer and on its screen was an image of a 10-year-old girl in a sex act with an adult male."
Moral of the story: Don't be a dumb@ss and try to j-off while driving the wrong way down a one way street.
They would have never caught him electronically. Wardriving itsself is a legal "gray" area, but even if it was illegal it would be nearly impossible to catch someone.
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bistro777
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join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO
| reply to Unit649
Re: Blah....
From a couple of articles on this - -
“…the driver, a man, was naked from the waist down. In the car was a laptop computer and on its screen was an image of a 10-year-old girl in a sex act with an adult male. A warrant was obtained, a search was executed, and a large amount of material was seized and taken to Toronto Police for further investigation. Walter Nowakoski, 36, has been charged with possession of child pornography (two counts), accessing child pornography, distributing child pornography, theft of telecommunications, and making child pornography.
“We seized 10 computers . . . and hundreds of CDs and floppy disks," Det.-Sgt. Paul Gillespie said. "Right now, I would say we are looking at hundreds of thousands of images." Gillespie said it will take 20 to 40 hours to forensically examine each computer, but so far, investigators have been exposed to some of the worst child pornography they've ever seen. "Right down to very young children and babies," he said.
Toss him in prison with “Big Bubba” for a few years...
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stufried
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join:2003-10-13
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Re: bs
This case will be a classic case of bad facts making bad law. If it was a business or a student in a restaurant (without wifi) using an open portal to check his/her e-mail, do you think the charges would be brought?
If even rudimentary security was used, it would be a different story, but many people openly don't care if you use their internet for that purpose. Compare the movements sprouting up in NY and Frisco for community shared internet access. (Verizon's bad neighbor policy notwithstanding). |
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TheMetrix
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join:2002-06-15
Utica, MI
clubs: | reply to bistro777
Re: Blah....
I say toss him in jail with Big Bubba. Also let Bubba in one what this sick pervert has done. That should get him some special attention from Bubba and his friends. |
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blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to addicted to p2p mp3
Re: is it illegal (will i get caught)
if it is copyrighted, it is still considered piracy. The RIAA won't know you downloaded it, but the neighbour - so - you had best hope he doesn't know you are doing it. It's like borrowing his screwdriver and not saying,.. or using his water main to water your grass. |
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Counterstric
I Was Here
join:2002-07-18
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I don't have a problem with war driving as long as nothing illegal is done with the open access point and an attempt is made to inform the owner of the problem. I DO HOWEVER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS, I hope this guy gets nailed, literally, in prison. Maybe he will realize what it is like to be on the recieving end of sexual assault.
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spg
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join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
| reply to blueeyesm
Re: is it illegal (will i get caught)
It's no different than "borrowing" your neighbor's lawnmower while he's off on vacation; it's theft. Bottom line: the service belongs to someone else, not you. I totally agree that he's asking for trouble by not securing his network, but car theft is still theft if the owner left the keys in the car. |
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trevor9
join:2003-03-03
EDM
|  reply to Jerm
Re: He got caught by:
A complete freak, no doubt.
How could you track him down? Well a starting point is the media access controller network ID. At some point it was purchased from a wholesaler or retailer. May lead to nothing but that's one example of how you get that ball rolling. Ever seen the ham radio/ airwave police that drive around? Maybe not in the US but in Canada we have those dudes. They could evolve to monitor wireless internet traffic by looking for that tube of invisible data and see what/why/when/where (ad-hoc etc). That's the best part of wireless, its out there u just have to know how to get it . Plus, do you honestly think the goverment would allow you to have a technology that they can't break into or know everything about? Ridiculous but in reality very hard to find that needle in the hay stack.
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
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|  Recent story on this on a local news station
There was a recent story about war driving featured on
CBS11 TV, a local station in Dallas, a few days ago. A
reporter for the station went driving around the city
with a security expert, and found almost 100 unsecured
wireless access points in about 2 hours. The full story
can be found here.
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Maxo
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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Re: He got caught by:
You'd think the guy would have at least put the monitor down and slipped his computer under his seat. This guy clearly lacked any amount of common sense.
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Maxo
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
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Re: is it illegal (will i get caught)
It's especially illegal when you are using someone elses equipment to do something else that is illegal. If you online actions were to get traced down it would be traced down to him. He would be the one having to file the legal defense.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | reply to bistro777
Re: Blah....
I'd hate to be the cop in charge of scanning this guys computer. Gross. |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
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If you aren't doing anything wrong I don't see a problem with it. If your neighbor left his hose on with nozel head at the end would it be wrong to get a sip of water? But if you were hosing down passing cars or doing something ridiculous then someone needs to knock some sense in to you.
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
1 edit | reply to Jerm
Re: He got caught by:
said by Jerm  :
They would have never caught him electronically. Wardriving itsself is a legal "gray" area, but even if it was illegal it would be nearly impossible to catch someone.
Very grey area, especially in Canada. While downloading child porn is definitely illegal and he should be locked up for quite some time, war driving technically isn't illegal under the Radiocommunications Act. In fact, it's actually illegal for someone to encrypt their wireless network without a valid government license. Anything unencrypted that is passed over the airwaves is free for anyone to accept and use. You'll note that in Canada, listening to and recording analog cell phone conversations is quite legal. While what he was doing was disgusting and he'll end up in jail for the child porn charges, I highly doubt the theft of telecommunications charge will stick. That actual law governs wireline communications, not unencrypted, unlicensed, wireless communications.
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