bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
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| Need some Japanese fibre in my diet...
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100Mbps fiber service is available to 43% of Japan, with 2002 subscribers signing up for service by the end of 2002. Japan continues to be the global leader in inexpensive broadband options.
Can anyone give me a good reason why we shouldn't pull up stakes and move to Japan for 100Mbps service?
Something beside the fact that their marijuana laws are even dumber than in America and deal out sentences twice as harsh as for 2nd degree murder... 
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Too much neon and too many brightly colored cartoon characters?  |
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Stewy85
Premium
join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs: | HA HA....thats the same thing I was thinking. |
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omicron9
join:2000-11-19
Sacramento, CA |  reply to Karl Bode
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...and too many brightly colored cartoon characters?
You mean... japanese people don't actually look like that???
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User0101
Premium
join:2002-12-12
S-ZZ9-PZA
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| Monster? Exactly How's That?
It's hard for me to blindly believe this to be the case when in my own Home Town we cant get a DSL product rolled out for a distance of more than 3 miles from the CO.
And this isn't exactly a small or rural town. We've been promised this product city-wide years ago directly by SBC/Ameritech and they haven't exactly followed through.
In the meantime, all DSL Authorized Resellers are biting the dust with this product because of undercutting prices by the CO's and slow rollout of product.
DSL is a quick fad means to an ends that will be replaced and shown to be unreliable for the cost in years to come. Whether you like the service or not these fact cant be ignored. Stick that in your pipe FCC!
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newyorkslick
join:2001-12-19
Rosedale, NY | reply to bmn
Re: Need some Japanese fibre in my diet...
No Deal. A 100mbps Broadband is hot.......but without my Weed Connections its not worth the trouble.
But I am going to visit Next Year. Try and Pick up some High tech Things second hand :-D. |
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LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI
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Re: Monster? Exactly How's That?
I know your frustration. DSL technology as it stands today is limited by the distance. this will change with time. I grew up in MI, and spent many summers in Traverse City, and I know this would be a great area, to provide DSL city wide, and not just near the CO(s)
It will come with time.
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Rothan Tik
Premium
join:2000-11-07
Danvers, MA
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 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Part of Japan's aggressive deployments came in part because of their bleeding-edge technology base. The other fact being the dense population of Japan. Lot of people living there in small areas...just about no "open land" so of course things will be deployed faster because it's shorter distances.
The end all to any distance problems is fiber plain and simple. Unfortunately in this country, an aging telco system and other legal hurdles prevents companies from upgrading their systems in a more economical/faster fashion.
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TheMadSwede
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
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| Japan
Japan's land area is about 1/25th of the area of the United States. 66% of Japan's land utilization is forest -- only about 17% of the total land area would be utilized for building or roads or "other".
The population of Japan is around 125 million. (US is about 290 million). Almost 60% of the total population in Japan lives in the 23 largest cities.
So you've got an area that is 1/25th the size of the US with a population of about 43% of the US -- with large pockets of people living in only 17% of that 1/25th.
I recognize my numbers aren't an official study by a renown scientist or company, but why are we continually surprised that smaller, more dense countries with large urban populations have better access to broadband?
I agree that America needs to come up with some good broadband solutions, but comparing apples and oranges, although dramatic and sometimes fun, isn't going to get us anywhere.
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
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| reply to bmn
Re: Need some Japanese fibre in my diet...
way to many people and land properties are too high.
remember, one of the reason why they have such a high precentage is because most of their population live sin apartments.
My basement probably twice as large (area) than most japanese apartments. |
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Ratso
@comcast.net
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Re: Monster? Exactly How's That?
Have you ever even been to Japan? Granted, it's the size of California, but that's far from small. There are vast amounts of "open land". Yet the mountain villages and small towns STILL have broadband available at every other pay phone. The reason they were able to deploy it so fast is that the phone co's are making a killing over there. Phone service is by far one of the most complicated scams in that country. |
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rwhubert
Bipolar Athlon
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join:2002-07-26
Atlanta, GA
·CYBERONIC INTERNET..
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Re: Need some Japanese fibre in my diet...
I can think of one small impediment to relocating to Japan ... They talk different and write different! If you think learning Japanese is like trying to learn, say, French, you are in for a rude awakening. If you think you can move to a country like Japan without ever learning Japanese, you are deep into self-delusion. It's the language there. English and other languages are strictly second-hand knowledge. So, buckle down and start memorizing a couple thousand Kanji characters. In a couple of decades, you might even begin to get the honorifics right. Good luck, and enjoy that 100MBS connection, you're going to need it. |
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bamaboy6
Premium
join:2003-10-09
Fuquay Varina, NC
| Does DSL outside USA require wired line?
The article say 54% of the broadband is DSL. I can't get DSL only - I have to keep my wired phone line ($28/month for basic service by the time all the fees/taxes are piled on). From what I read elsewhere in BBR having a wired phone for DSL is common here in the USA/NA. Does DSL in other countries required wired line service? I use cable modem (without cable TV), and the my wired phones days are numbered (I'm testing a VoIP service now). The wired phone 'tax' for DSL keeps me off of DSL. |
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