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Rochester, NY | Re: That's what you get... Agreed. The whole law suit is a waste of money and time. | |
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| Re: That's what you get... have we become... I thought we were breeding them.. we let the gov take more and more responsibility of our children... they feed our kids twice a day... try to descide on what religon we want or dont want... and other such things. We as parents are not thinking clearly on things... why cant we get back to schools teaching our kids the 3 r's ( for you spring chickens out there 3 r'2 is Reading wRiting and aRithmatic) and let us parents do the raising of our kids. Ihope those parents who are worried about wi-fi dont watch tv or listen to radios???? all those radio waves... and what about the talk of those damm cell phones emiting rf into your ear... OH MY | |
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UnKown
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Orlando, FL | Re: That's what you get... i was tought that the three r's meant
Recyling, Reusing, and something else, but i forget. maybe Responsibility or some other crap that no1 cares about | |
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Miami, FL | Re: That's what you get... You mean reduce, reuse, and recycle? | |
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Rambo76098
join:2003-02-21
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| said by Kearnstd  :
i bet these parents sueing are seen daily in their SUV on their cellphone.
Its always wackos like that that would bring on a lawsuit like that. Lord knows what other "unhealthy" things they do. | |
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| Re: That's what you get... said by Rambo76098 :
said by Kearnstd :
i bet these parents sueing are seen daily in their SUV on their cellphone.
Its always wackos like that that would bring on a lawsuit like that. Lord knows what other "unhealthy" things they do.
Exactly. Cigarettes, they have NO purpose in life but to be addictive and cause body damage. Even saccharine is harmful, yet both are still perfectly legal to use. At least with cell phones and WI-FI you get some practical use out of them.
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| Sad really. Sure technology is great, but I would be interested in what you would all say after finding out you have brain cancer. A little different perspective on life if you now it may end shortly.
Microwaves and Cell phones are convenience tools. No one was every really concerned about the affect it would have on us, more importantly they were interested on how much money they could make.
Do some research if you can, they are volumes and volumes of studies that can link cell mutation to electronic fields.
We will all think twice when you find a sweet house for sale, then realize that High Tension power lines cascade through your backyard.
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| Re: That's what you get... said by Not-Ignorant:
Do some research if you can, they are volumes and volumes of studies that can link cell mutation to electronic fields.
And there are just as many studies that say there is no link. Who's studies should we believe?
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| Do people even realize there are constant radio frequencies and satellite frequencies at as high of frequencies as cell phones? DO people realize that light is a very very high frequency radio wave with a fair amount of radiation too.
The sun causes more damage than cell phones or wireless technology. There are black holes light years away that emit enough xrays that they reach the earth, but you never hear them panic about it. Hypocritical paranoia is what it amounts to.
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| Re: That's what you get... said by bumper43:
For you to be credible you should learn to spell. It seems like you know what your talking about if you can spell the words, or use spellcheck.
Dude you got his point right!? wtf with these people. Only reply to this whole thread and it's to tell someone to learn to spell. *sigh* I hate that sh!t!! friggin idiot.
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Pataskala, OH | Re: That's what you get... Only an English teacher would put in something like that... or someone with a Really Big mental problem. | |
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| Then instead of taking a step back by disallowing WiFi, you take two steps foreward by implementing WiFi along with safety measures to prevent any so-called unhealthy exposure.
Plus, I'm a firm believer in Karma. If you get brain cancer, it was meant to be!
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| Well, electricity causes magnetic fields, and they can cause cancer, so perhaps these Families in Illinois can do us all a favor and rip all technology out of their house and have their electricity turned off, and instead live by candles and woodburning fireplace....
Oh wait I think the smoke is bad for you...
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| Re: That's what you get... said by KrK :
Oh wait I think the smoke is bad for you...
Yep. It has been linked to lung cancer in high doses.
As I stated above and someone below, Radio, TV, Satellite TV, and many other industries utilize the 3 ghz plus frequency ranges. What's the difference in adding another thing?
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clubs: | DON"T FORGET POLICE RADAR!!!!! GET RID OF THAT TO. Matter of fact, if they win lets all sue the state for overexposure to RF waves from police radar. HEHE!
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| Re: That's what you get... Sure. Let's not forget gas. It has to be refined from oil which causes a lot of pollution. All power plants except hydroelectric plants to be shut down. All businesses using electricity except those from an hydroelectric power plant.
I could go on all day.
Point is, why try to outlaw or ban something that is no more harmful than the monitor we're all looking in to, or the microwave in everyone's kitchen or the processor in everyone's computer.
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join:2001-09-05
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| Re: That's what you get... said by algorithm :
Let's not forget that asbestos was the greatest thing since sliced rye in 1939. Parents have every right to demand that safety be proved and not assumed.
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amazing how the "sue" zealots are the first to bitch about property taxes going up I personally know of a district of only 1400 students that lost 230,000 dollars defending against mostly frivolous lawsuits just last year alone, they now just settle as it is cheaper than the lawyers even when they have a winnable case.. I just saw this school's special ed dept settle for almost 5G's with parents who had unilaterally placed their kid in a private school, this kid IS NOT a special ed student but upon threatening the district with a lawsuit to pony up the yearly tuition the district saved about 45,000 but just giving them cash ... it is a way of life to do this crap in affluent districts all over this country now... wanna lower your property taxes and still have funds for pet studies ? quit suing everyone especially schools god knows with all the inane unfunded mandates imposed by the present regime they are hard pressed enough just trying to provide basic education [/off rant] | |
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| Re: That's what you get... said by Rambo76098 :
Hmm for everyone like that there's a thing called "A JOB!"
You might want to try getting one.
Speaking of jobs, I understand there's plenty of need for teachers that can teach others how to read.
Then, for example, they'd be able to read lawsuits before commenting on them.
Then, for example, they'd notice that no monetary damages were asked for in the suit. The plaintiffs are seeking an injunction.
Then, quite possibly, they'd stop posting crap about 'earning money', as if that had any applicability to this case.
I seem to be taking the side of the plaintiffs in this; which is odd because I think they're factually in the wrong. But I'm appalled at the ignorance shown in this forum, and the lack of willingness to actually go and read. | |
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| Re: That's what you get... This thread has actually spread to the general ignorance of people suing for ignorant reasons. Regardless of whether there was monetary damages claimed or just wanting it to cease, is minute. The whole point is why try to stop something that has no proven side affects besides actually increasing cerebral performance?
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| said by dave :
But I'm appalled at the ignorance shown in this forum, and the lack of willingness to actually go and read.
... Yeah, and then there's the people who apparently don't or can't follow the threading of the posts properly and in so doing see how the discussion has evolved, changed, or had related points interjected; these people then feel it's ok to insult and flame other users for their posts. Such behavior is probably born out of ego or an over-valued sense of their own self-importance.
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| said by MadDog3057 :
... when you try to get with the times and offer people free technology. I hope the judge rules in favor of the school.
The sad irony of this lawsuit is that it obscures the real damage this technology does to the brain.
Students using computers too often are students who are unable to think. Most of my stepson's friends (including the ones in the "advanced" classes) struggle with basic multiplication and division without a calculator. One derides books as "boring." Spelling without the aid of a spellcheck program is a lost cause. The computer-as-teaching-aid seems, to my mind, to be just an extension of the television-as-babysitter that is the norm in far too many households.
Technology can indeed damage young minds. The damage, however, is wrought through inculcation of sloppy mental habits, rather than immersion in electromagnetic radiation fields.
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Charlotte, NC
| Re: That's what you get... I completely agree. Hell, I think they should do away with pen and paper. Imagine all these morons out there having to use scratch paper to do arithmetic. (Please note xtreme sarcasm).
Tools are just that, tools. The computer is no different than a pen and paper. I can show someone how to do long division on pen and paper, but that doesn't mean they understand it (and they assuredly couldn't do it without the tool provided). As long as the teachers are explaining everything (still up to the kid to learn) in a manner that provides the ability to comprehend, it doesn't matter what tool they use. | |
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Rambo76098
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Pataskala, OH | Some people are just too sue-happy. I hope the court dismisses the case for a lack of evidence of damage to health. | |
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Ill - Ini
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clubs: | next thing you know, there's going be TV adds showing dead bodies and cancerous tissue due to Wi-Fi. (not that im for smoking, and in fact hate it) But still this is all ridiculous. | |
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Mansfield, TX
| Suing is a rich individual's "thrill-seeking" passtime. While some like skydiving, paragliding, etc. (anything that pumps their adrenaline with playing on life's edge), others are fruitless and cowards. The cowards then have to turn to another source of "high-intensity" passtime to fullfill their shits & giggles. Thus... they like to file suit against everything and anything possible, for whatever reason. Why go to Vegas, when the U.S. legal system is a good source of "gambling"? Will I win this one and score big, or will I loose? | |
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| said by X-digit:
Will I win this one and score big, or will I loose?
Merely looking at the complaint would have told you that they're not asking for money. said by X_Digit:
Dave, again (as I mentioned in another post), since when did our courts become a platform JUST TO ASK QUESTIONS?
When, as it said in the complaint, the 'responsible' authorities refuse to answer your questions or hear your objections. quote:
I wondered why other countries looked at us as spoiled rotten little babies!
Speaking as a representative of Her Britannic Majesty's people, I say that we think your legal system does have its comical aspects, but this isn't one of those occasions.
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panth1
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Boca Raton, FL | Whats so bad? I grew a third eye but it helps me see the whole board now.
A third arm could also help with taking notes too.
Anyone else experience this?
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vic102482
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| Re: Hrm You know, it's sad what this is all coming to. People wanting money and suing people for stupid reasons. Unless the school is freaking putting some piece of equipment on their property they need to lay off this stupid crap.
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Oh, and don't forget the 1.1Ghz-3.8Ghz Intel/AMD processor PCs we use in our daily lives, especially the ones that have that BIG window on the side of the case or don't have any metal surrounding the motherboard.
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| Re: stupid said by bky :
This is so stupid.
I agree. Why don't those parents do something good for their kids... like read them a bed-time story instead of trying to sue the local school and its technology. | |
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Round Rock, TX | Ban 2.4Ghz phones as well? I assume the school and those parents don't use 2.4Ghz phones or cell phones at home either. They just popped out of dark ages? | |
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| The Solution! Well here is one solution. I wonder how many of the kids in that school are carrying around cellphones...
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Willow Spring, NC | These people are so ignorant and have probably been given some bad advice by some money grabbing scum sucking lawyer. I hope the School wins and these looser parents fail in this complete waste of taxpayers money. | |
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| Sue There are 3 APs in my vicinity. Can I sue owners?
Electromagnetic waves are passing through my room, should I sue owners of the sources?
Please....
Some people just don't know what to do with their free time.
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I have always believed that our "sue 'em if you feel lucky" system would be better if we borrowed a bit more from the English. No I'm not talking about the silly little horse hair wigs. I mean the "English Rule". Essentially, if you bring a civil suit for damages and you lose, you pay the court cost and all costs associated with the prevailing party's defense of the claim. (I would actually leave out injunctive and mandamus - look it up- relief since there are legitimate public interest groups who have borderline cases that should be brought to court).
The current system allows for well heeled plaintiffs' attorneys to carry the costs of specious tort claims on behalf of nut job (legal term) clients in the hopes of either nuisance money settlements or jackpot verdicts. Currently, the only downside to such expeditionary plaintiffs' lawyers should they lose are the filing fees and their own time.
People should think twice before they sue, the English Rule will not prevent worthwhile claims from being made and it will lessen the load of our judicial system considerably. Hell, I'd even be in favor of apportioning the costs assessment equally between the losing plaintiff and his lawyer.
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East Lansing, MI | Re: i got a ticket lol this is hilarious!
lets all sue the local pd. | |
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| Re: *sigh* said by fancydancer :
said by KaziSmith :
Makes you wonder how they graduated in the first place.
Who says they did?
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Tampa, FL | Considering this is Oak Park, most of them probably hold a masters degree or better... | |
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| Re: This town... Actually, they are in the glide paths of both ORD and MDW...Oak Park has more air traffic flying over it than most of any other suburb...
Well educated town...stupid people...
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| How dumb is this? I have no idea what these parents are thinking? Wifi is safer than your microwave ovan, cell phone, 2.4ghz cordless phone, etc. I bet about 50% of the people involved in this lawsuit have wifi at home. How can you go after a school for using wifi if you use it at home? Almost all of the studies involving wifi are incomclusive at best. If it was so dangerus why did the fcc aprove its use and why are almost all of our hospitals installing wifi? | |
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join:2003-10-07
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| Greater Implications Greenpeace - a bunch of nice, misguided people. This is what my physics teacher says, and he's right. Along with these "concerned parents." Idiots who hold strong opinions on things they dont understand can be found all over. For example, people have been raising a big ruckus over a slightly radioactive component in smoke detectors. However, unless you consume them by the bucketfull daily, the radiation will be not only negligable, but also unable to pass through your skin.
And as to worries over high-tension power lines, thats simply rediculous; the earth's magnetic field that we have been and will continue to be imersed in is at least 10 times as strong as any power line.
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| Re: In it for the money. I wonder if these are the same people who sued McDonalds for giving them hot coffee so they can spill it on themselves. Figured they might be on the loose again when I read this story.
I think the parents would have a better case against wifi if they focus concerns on network security than harmfull radiation. There's plenty of research on wifi security.
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Milton, FL | Re: In it for the money. Did you know too much oxygen can kill you to! Who can we sue for that? These are the same parents that dont get their kids vaccinated because some get 15 years ago got a fever from a flu shot. | |
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Korea | Are the paintiffs' attorneys taking the case pro bono?
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