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Comments on news posted 2003-10-03 13:31:29: Several months after the fact, the media has discovered that cable speeds are increasing; but is the move what consumers want, and will it be enough to fend off a DSL price war?. ..

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Apophis
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Holmen, WI
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WE WANT MORE UPLOAD

We want more upload oh, and drop that server clause as well...


maximus_808
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Green Cove Springs, FL
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I cant wait to switch....

When DirectvDSL went under I went to Speakeasy..mostly based on their reputation around this site. I am now waiting for my contract to be up so i can make the switch to Comcast. I pay close to 70$ a month for 1500/128... I will get double both up and down for almost 30$ less.
For the money i pay simply having great tech support is not enough to justify it in my opinion.
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jose3030
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join:1999-08-17
Manassas, VA
I'm like the opposite of you.

I am slated to get 3mb/down, 256k/up and I cant wait to go to DSL.

Comcast is gonna be ruling w/ an iron fist for "people downloading too much".


damonlab
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Detroit, MI
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More upload please

They outright lie in the commercials. They show high quality video conferencing in the commercials. With current upload limitations, it is difficult to have a video conference and impossible to have a high quality video conference. With current upload limitations, it is difficult to share large files.

Edit- also... unless they remove download caps, faster download speed will just allow people to hit their monthly cap faster.
[text was edited by author 2003-10-03 13:10:13]

Tophet

join:2002-11-30
Verona, PA
Fight Nice, Throw Bricks

Here Here! I haven't maxed out my 1.5mb download in a while, but I have always maxed out my lousy 128Kb upload.


maximus_808
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Green Cove Springs, FL
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reply to jose3030
Re: I cant wait to switch....

I do not consider myself or my family heavy downloaders...a lot of surfing ....some music...some streaming ..but nothing that would put us anywhere near the top of anyones usage charts.


Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..

Downstream is nice.....

Honestly, I won't complain that TW has recently increased my download speed to 3Mbps, but it still takes AGES if I want to do the "cool" things I am supposed to be able to do with broadband.

Try running a live webcam chat with a friend at anything above 1 frame per second, 240x200 size and watch your browsing come to a halt and your image refresh like you had a strobe light flashing behind you.

We have enough downstream. I would HAPPILY give my 1 Mbps downstream increase back to TW for, oh, say, HALF that added to my upstream.

768Kbit upstream sounds good to me. 1 Mbps EVEN BETTER.

We have a 768 SDSL line at work and while downloading files is painfully slow, I am still amazed at anything I upload. It is noticeably faster.

384Kbps is just not enough upload to get the "true" broadband experience.
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plencnerb
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Franksville, WI
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·RoadRunner Cable

reply to Apophis
Re: WE WANT MORE UPLOAD

said by Apophis See Profile:
We want more upload oh, and drop that server clause as well...
I agree. I currently have no problems with my current speed (1800/256), but more of either one would be nice. With them doubling the download, that will make getting OS patches, updates, etc that much faster. I can't see them doubling the download (to 512), but it would be nice if they gave us another 128 down (to 384).

My problem right now is the use of Servers. The argument I always hear why an ISP does not allow/like its users to run servers is that they eat up all the upstream bandwidth. Yet, everyone is allowed to run P2P servers 24/7/365 and no one says Boo to them.

Either force everyone on a given ISP to stop running P2P apps, or allow the rest of us the freedom to run other server applications (Web, FTP, etc). To me, someone running a web site or FTP server 24/7 is the same as someone running a P2P server. They both are using upload, so what difference does it make.

If Comcast would allow residential customers this freedom, I would be very happy with my service.
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B777300

join:2002-01-02
reply to Matt
Re: Downstream is nice.....

384 kbps is not that bad, some people are stuck with 128kbps.


Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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said by B777300 See Profile:
384 kbps is not that bad, some people are stuck with 128kbps.
Well, luckily I do have at least 384Kbit. It is still painfully, no, DEATHLY, slow for what I want to do. To the point I pretty much don't try anything advanced like I did when I initially signed up.

I have experienced 128Kbit and I agree with you.

::shudder::
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B777300

join:2002-01-02
reply to Matt
yeah im stuck with 128kbps for a long time, sending a 10 mb file to a friend over msn takes a long time, my line sync is 128 kbps upload, i get 114 kbps upload in speed tests, i just cant get any better, already paying $50.


kba4

join:2001-10-23
Canton, OH
·RoadRunner Cable

so what if we can download more, faster

with most uploads capped well below the top download speeds now available to some cable users, what's the point of really using the connection to its potential? if my friend can't upload the file to me faster, why let me download faster? true, it allows more connections to fill up the stream, but who is supplying the high-bandwidth links: universities (increasingly capped), and the best websites (who pay for the bandwidth). i thought by now cable users would have outdone anything dsl offers and more. i thought we'd be on AIM or a p2p app blowing the others away. and i knew there'd be regular pricing hikes and no official support for the users' real intents but i didn't think things would become so stingy. they could give me 10Mbps down (and they can right now, after 10yrs of 'upgrades' and development there's no reason it can't be done) but if i can't get a transfer of 10Mbps, what's the point? even 10 1Mbps downloads isn't anything fancy. i want to trade files and use my connection to it's true potential (hell i'd be happy with half at this point); the cableco's are reeling in the cash and not providing the good value we deserve. and i'm not referring to OOL, i'm on RR and right now (and for the past 5 years) it SUCKS... less than 100Kbps upload and now 3Mbps down. why not 300-500Kbps up and 1.5-2Mbps down? why not symmetrical in the first place, it seems that would be more efficient a design.
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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

IMO, the real reason for the increase

I think the real reason they are increasing the downstream (and why they doubled the upstream not too long ago) is to get ready for VOIP. They are getting some PR mileage out of the increase, but I will bet money that the reason for the increase isn't to look like a better deal versus DSL, but for VOIP rollout.


Stewy85
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join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
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384

Well i would be happy right now with just 384 upload speed.


Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA

Lower the prices or give tiered access

RR recently went to 3Mbps. While that's nice, I really don't notice a speed difference. I consider myself an above average downloader (not in the "bandwidth hog" range, just above average), yet I really can't use all of that 3Mbps. (Closest I get is when I'm downloading the log files from my websites.)

I'd rather go back to 1.5Mbps and get half off my bill. Ok, maybe they would price it slightly less than half off so people would say "Oooh. Twice the speed for less than twice the cost." Still, $25 instead of $45 would be very nice.

Sure, they would lose $20 or so a month from me, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't sign up because $45 a month is too pricey for them. They'd be more likely to sign up if they could get cable modem speeds for dial-up prices.
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B777300

join:2002-01-02

reply to nasadude
Re: IMO, the real reason for the increase

said by nasadude See Profile:
I think the real reason they are increasing the downstream (and why they doubled the upstream not too long ago) is to get ready for VOIP. They are getting some PR mileage out of the increase, but I will bet money that the reason for the increase isn't to look like a better deal versus DSL, but for VOIP rollout.
VoIP doesnt need so much bandwidth. 56/56 (kilobits per second) should be fine for VoIP.


nklb
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Ann Arbor, MI
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reply to plencnerb
Re: WE WANT MORE UPLOAD

said by plencnerb See Profile:
To me, someone running a web site or FTP server 24/7 is the same as someone running a P2P server. They both are using upload, so what difference does it make.
In fact, most people who run web/ftp for personal use don't get NEARLY as much traffic as someone who runs p2p. p2p = bandwidth hungry, whereas with a web server you generally only see traffic on occasion when someone stumbles onto the site.

Either web or ftp at full load would be identical to p2p in that respect, but the vast majority don't see anywhere near full load. I only see a couple hundred hits a day to mine :-/
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ChargerMike
Premium
join:2001-06-10
Edgerton, WI
 LIES LIES LIES!

I find that our "increased" down load is worthless. Sure when web browsing pages load fast but try to down load a large file or play an online game and that 128 upstream chokes off your download and sends your pings to heck.

B777300

join:2002-01-02
reply to Apophis
Re: WE WANT MORE UPLOAD

depends what kind of server, p2p is extremely hungry, I can do like 5 gb total of bothways in less than 24 hours(P.S kazaa is not really p2p, its like mini-p2p for newbies, the real thing is DC++).

B777300

join:2002-01-02
reply to ChargerMike
Re: LIES LIES LIES!

I was on 1500 kbps/256 kbps right now, i would switch to 768/768
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