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Comments on news posted 2003-09-10 09:25:12: SBC Chief Edward Whitacre Jr says he sees just "doesn't see the incentive for FTTP" (fiber to the premises). ..
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 alchav
join:2002-05-17 Palm Desert, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| FTTH......Cry, Cry, Cry!
Most of you guys have excuses, on why we can't or who should pay to bring us Fiber. Not too many solutions if any, and some go off the subject and go political. I say if you are going to get FTTH now you have to do it yourself. A little help from the Government would be nice too. I live in a community of 5000 homes almost 10,000 people, and we have had Broadband for about two years and I doubt that no more than 20% have it. The Cable Company had to do some upgrades. Did they make money? Probably in the long run, and you want SBC and the Telco's to fork out $2000 a house for Fiber, when probably most people won't use it and they will have to share it with the CLEC's. As you can see this doesn't make any business sense. Now a better idea is to extend the POP (Point Of Presence) out into the neighborhood or community. Then it would be up to the home owners in that community to wire or wireless their homes up to this POP. Then from here the community brings in whatever ISP, Telco, Cable Company, or any other company.
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|  |  sherpaboy
join:2001-07-06 Seattle, WA
| Re: FTTH......Cry, Cry, Cry! Hello alchav,
Thanks for this post. A lot of good stuff here. I am always disappointed how many people want to implement a project weather it makes business sense or not. They never want to think about the risks. Imagine if the company they worked for recklessly invested in a loosing venture and because of that failure had to lay off 50% of the work force. They would be pissed at their own company for engaging in the high risk activity. But as long as it is risky for somebody else... the nameless faceless employees of SBC... who cares?
The one statement that I do take issue with is... A little help from the Government would be nice. It would be no different than a large company recklessly investing shareholder money in a money loosing project. Matter of fact, if it is the Gov, it is actually worse. It is our money, we don't have the choice to invest or not. They take it, and have little accountability. | |
|   Joe999999999
@66.99.x.x | There is a lot Fiber near my house There is a lot Fiber near my house | |
|  bmn ? ? ? Premium,ExMod 2003-06 join:2001-03-15 hiatus
| Well if the Bells won't do it, I know who should.. Recent analyst statements have come out stating that the telecommunications sector (companies like Worldcom, Level3, Cogent, etc.) have weak demand and that their earnings grow is still quite flat due to a lack of demand... Here's the perfect chance for them to prop it up.
If these telecom companies started to deploy fibre to the home and business in an effort to provide voice, video and data, it is very likely that these companies would see a massive increase in utilization and dramatic raises in earnings growth. While the initial investment is quite high, in this economy you have to take risks to really make it big.
So if SBC and the other "Belcos" aren't going to do this, SCREW THEM (strange from a Pro Telco, Anti Cableco person). Level3, Eli, etc. should pick up the dropped ball and run with it. The fact stands, the first people into this emerging market are likely to be the leader for the long term. -- If you could read my mind, here's what you'd see.. Kinda. | |
|  garmst
join:2000-09-17 New York, NY
·Speakeasy
| Fiber build out is not needed Copper based technologies will rapidly increase DSL speeds. 100 Mbit is expected in the future. The vast majority of consumers need nothing near 100Mbit. 99% of the uses of the Internet are easily accomplished with less than 5Mbit both ways. The vast majority of services need less than 1.5Mbit. The only people who needs gobs of B/W these days are file traders and your days are numbered.
Copper is a wonderful thing. Get used to it, it is all you will see and need for quite a while. | |
|  |  todd2473
join:2003-07-03 North Vernon, IN
| Re: Fiber build out is not needed you know just cause someone is a bandwidth hog doesn't mean they are a p2p junkie. I happen to have a tier 2 cable connection with a 3mb/512 setup and I run a few game servers for deltaforce/tfd / bhd / and a dedicated enimy territory my bandwidth greatly affects how many players can join and how good the gaming experience is. I would love to have an 100mb connection with a teir 2 or tier 3 cable price and I would pay 2000 for my instalation cause just like anything else it increases the value of my home if I ever decide to sell if its already in place. so I strongly disagree that people begging for bandwidth is only for file sharing and warez folk. I think people who aren't asking for more bandwidth prolly just do know enough to realize that for anyone more is better. just look at productivity scales and anyone can see that more bandwidth for most users means less time waiting and more time doing what you want on the net period it should be a municple utility. | |
|  yabos
join:2003-02-16 Ingersoll, ON
| $2000 is cheap I remember reading about a comparison between new FTTH, cable and DSL installs and FTTH was about the same as DSL.
Why the h3ll aren't they putting this in every single new home?! 2 grand isn't going to make a bit of difference on your mortgage, and the 2 grand isn't even much more than for installing cable or DSL in a new home.
Hell, if it was 10 grand more to install, I'd still get it installed if I was buying a new house. | |
|  vic102482 Premium join:2002-04-30 Upper Marlboro, MD | 2000 one time fee Id pay that in a HEARTBEAT! | |
|   dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| Why Why do the fibre thing when you can milk your sleepy service level accounts for a few more decades? FTT* is only in small pockets of (usually affluent hoods) of america. fibre would TOTALLY KILL T1 (and the big telco's dont want that) -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
|  Y2KickIT
join:2003-06-29 Mcminnville, OR
| Steal with one hand, beg with the other You can't be surprised that they now cry they can't do it. Or that they want FTTC to be treated the same.
I said it before. The goal is to cut off CLECs from the CO to the customer. The only broadband will be from the ILEC, a facilities based monopoly and like pricing, no competition.
Okay they will have a 64K equivalent pipe to sell CLECs (for what dial up?) and they set the price (about 85-95% of what their lowest price service will be).
$2000 a subscriber too high? Look at the price being paid for older technologies (Charter, RCN) at prices well above that? »www.thestreet.com/pf/tech/george···045.html | |
|   Balzer Cat Man Dew
join:2000-12-18 Tulsa | No Incentive for me to keep dsl then
After this news im glad i switched to cable. Yes i have heard all the reports both bad and good. And im going to tell every one that i know to switch. -- Televangelists are The Pro Wrestlers of religion! | |
|  David95037
join:2003-04-16 Morgan Hill, CA
·Be There
| An alternative solution for universal broadband The Interstate freeway network was built with a 4 cent a gallon gas tax, we should consider the same idea for broadband. Broadband is critical to economic recovery, allowing the Robber Baron RBOCs to deploy Broadband at their convenience and for their maximum gain will jeopardize the future economic well being of our country.
Some may argue that the free market should be allowed to provide the broadband infrastructure. Unfortunately we have allowed and encouraged a monopoly telecoms structure that is anything but a free market. | |
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