wolfox
Gentle Wolfox
join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL | Will this idiocy cease?
Another RIAA post...*grumble* |
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Smokey
Even drunk on a bet ya make it to Canada
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join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
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| Cry babies!
Like I said before, "LET THE CRYING BEGIN". And it has in full force! IF they stopped "copyright infringement" (stealing to the smart people), then they would have nothing to cry about. Now let the fun begin, all comments form a line to the LEFT!!!
Edit; Spelling
[text was edited by author 2003-07-30 15:42:08] |
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC
| Lock em up
and throw away the KEY!!!
60 million future prison inductees are not to be spared, and god help them if they are Texans, to the chamber you go!!!
Make sure johnny and lil Sue, are in the front of the line, bankrupt their parents and send them to the poor house, that will teach them that might makes right!!! You copyright infringe, you go down!!!! oh yeaaaaaaah...
blah..RIAA, the clock is ticking... |
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| Screw All You Guys!
I believe the RIAA is fighting a losing battle, sure they can sue thousands of people, but what do they get from sueing? NOTHING GOOD, especially when they go after crazy amounts of money, and on top of that you will end up with more enemy's. I say screw them, and screw you to the people that agree with them. You people are no better than them.
There is no excuse for the price fixing, and only giving cents of that to the artist. I would much rather download the music, and send the artist a check for 3-4 dollars. It will be more than they make from the sell.
Someone seriously needs to take the battle a step further, target the lawyers, target the people who are the RIAA. Private Companies are not going to run my life!
[text was edited by author 2003-07-30 15:55:41] |
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Aneenerguy
@cox.net | Do you write checks to the artists for $3-4? |
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
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Re: Will this idiocy cease?
Maybe you just don't get it do you? If you don't like the article or headlines, DO NOT POST! It's as simple as that.
Thank You, Drive Through!
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Maxo
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I think making the front page of CNN and the publicity is exactly what they are going for. If parent catch wind that they might be having to visit court because of the program their kid downloaded they might tell them not to use it. And the more publicity the more people will be scared to use it. In the end as stated at the bottom of the article technology will outdue the RIAAs efforts and they will play catchup for the next couple of years. Then the technology will get even better, etc., etc.
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ArchAngel21x
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Lincoln, NE
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| Yep
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Their latest filing of over 900 subpoenas exists with one purpose in mind: scare the living hell out of enough file traders that popular culture virally adopts the mindset that the practice of downloading music illegally is simply too risky to be worth-while.
Worked on me. I don't trade anything now.
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ravital
Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter
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join:2001-07-19
Merrimack, NH
| Absolution On Line
It's immoral. It's theft. The artists are the ones who suffer, and the artists are the only party we care about in this enlightened public debate. If you download illegally (heck if you download period), you have sinned.
For your penance, go to Absolution On Line, a.k.a. AOL (Time Warner). Smoke what they smoke, do the download thing their way. When THEY download, artists don't get hurt. Not one bit. |
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| reply to Aneenerguy
Re: Screw All You Guys!
I've given artist money before.. I've never went as far as writing a check to a artist, but I would without a second thought. Just tell me where to mail it to =)
I gave the lead singer to Nickelback 5 bucks for his cd. Plus what ever he made from the concert. Which definatly adds up to a hell of alot more than what they make from the RIAA
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Cheetah9
join:2001-01-07
Bethel Park, PA
|  reply to ArchAngel21x
Re: Yep
said by ArchAngel21x  :
quote:
Their latest filing of over 900 subpoenas exists with one purpose in mind: scare the living hell out of enough file traders that popular culture virally adopts the mindset that the practice of downloading music illegally is simply too risky to be worth-while.
Worked on me. I don't trade anything now.
But, has it made you want to go out to your local music store and buy? |
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str7
join:2003-07-04
canada
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Re: Front page
Seriously, since when did children start listening to their parents "don't do that". I doubt many parents like the fact that their 13 years old son/daughter is smoking, etc...
Also, children nowadays know more about technology then their parents. How are their parents going to stop them downloading? I know several people my age (20-30) that do not even know how to browse file directories. If I was to put 2 Gigs of Mp3s on their computers, they probably would never even notice or find it... |
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC | reply to Cheetah9
Re: Yep
not at all...unless it's a used CD place... |
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wolfox
Gentle Wolfox
join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL
| reply to technick
Re: Will this idiocy cease?
Maybe you do not understand mine - it just means that I have to do more reading on the subject, find the same motives and the same people involved. It's not really anything new.
Not that I am an enemy of the RIAA, (Being that I have to toe a very fine and wary line with them to maintain operation of my radio network) I just cannot personally condone the methodology that they are using to make sure that the "bills are paid."
At $750 - $15k or more per song found to be illegally obtained - they are simply ruining people. They (RIAA) are ruining their image, and they are ruining any further chances they may have down the road for implementing a business model that would be pleasing to all. Let alone the impact that is is having on file sharing. I bet you all, dollars to doughnuts that people are still trading out of spite.
In a nation of laws and legislature that has grown too far out of hand in the first place, this is just the feather in the cap - the straw that breaks the camel's back. RIAA has the funds and the political clout to keep on doing what it is that it is doing, and to buy more laws as it seems fit to keep encroaching, ultimately - into the private residence.
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The DMCA's powers go far beyond those of the typical subpoena, however. No judge has to sign off on the order - it only requires the stamp of a clerk of the court. Nor does a copyright holder have to prove that copyright infringement has occurred. The holder only has to allege infringement.
Emphasis in the above quote is mine alone -
What's to keep this from being a precedant that would allow other *organizations and associations* (Not agencies) to rally together and lobby to make other laws and legislature that would ingress into daily life?
Now with that to think upon for a while, I invite you to hand over some packets of ketchup while I am idling in your drive-thru restaurants' window of enlightenment...
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onsitede
Hot Hot Hot
join:2000-11-24
Broad Brook, CT
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| reply to Cheetah9
Re: Yep
I have not traded for over a year and have not purchased a single CD in over 3 years. If I need a CD for the car I rip my favorite stream to CD, easy and simple.
Sadly in the end it's the artist that suffer. The RIAA's tactics are hurting the industry as a whole. Old distribution methods are outdated. I think a lot of people (me included) would pay for a good electronic distribution service, one that gave the range of files and freedom to use the music where you wanted. Consider it evoloution, those who do not evolve perish. |
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wolfox
Gentle Wolfox
join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL
| reply to Maxo
Re: Front page
They have already successfully demonized the format itself. When someone asked me how I get pre-recorded material to the air, I tell them that I use a sound recorder and non-linear editor (amongst other tools)and then compress to MP3's.
"MP3's? Aren't those illegal?" is usually the next question out of their mouths.
Score one point for the RIAA and the ignorance of people...
*grumbles some more*
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rzaruba
join:2000-08-04
| reply to wolfox
Re: Will this idiocy cease?
See below
[text was edited by author 2003-07-30 16:49:23] |
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rzaruba
join:2000-08-04
|  reply to wolfox
"No judge has to sign off on the order - it only requires the stamp of a clerk of the court. Nor does a copyright holder have to prove that copyright infringement has occurred. The holder only has to allege infringement."
Thank you for trumpeting your ignorance.
A subpoena is a command for something. It requires no probable cause.
It is normally stamped with the clerk's name and then sealed.
IN only one case in 27 years did we get a USDJ to sign a subpoena, and that was because we knew in advance that the recipient would balk and we were prepared to have her brought into the court by Deputy Marshals.
So what else is new? |
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wolfox
Gentle Wolfox
join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL
| Well, now I know.  And if this forum is not a place of learning, then what is it for? I was lead to believe not only by other posters here, but articles in the past, that a Judge's signature was to be obtained for a subpoena to be legitimate. Also, the DMCA/RIAA's procedures seemed to be cast in a light that it got ruling passed into legislature that suspended that requirement for a signature.
Thank you for at least illuminating that fallacy.
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watchman57
My Sis And I 4 And 3 Yrs Old
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join:2001-06-08
Siler City, NC
| reply to onsitede
Re: Yep
said by onsitede :
Sadly in the end it's the artist that suffer. The RIAA's tactics are hurting the industry as a whole. Old distribution methods are outdated. I think a lot of people (me included) would pay for a good electronic distribution service, one that gave the range of files and freedom to use the music where you wanted. Consider it evoloution, those who do not evolve perish.
This is the my first post in reference to the topic of the RIAA. I have to say that I completely agree with what you posted onsitede.
The RIAA is generating so much negative publicity. I believe that they are completely missing the damage that will ensue over the fallout in regards to this issue of filing the subpoenas against these people. Regardless of whether they are in the right or not the damage is being done. And new industries will be born of this with them being left out in the cold.
Change needs to come and they are completely missing the boat. Look how much the Movie industry griped and moaned about the VCR and how it would be the down fall of movies in the theaters. Boy did they miss that one.
Best Regards,
Chris
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