BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO | untrue
This cannot be happening because all the chicken littles (krk, briandamage, tofarfromco(otherwise known at 2dumb4dsl)) have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!! |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
|  Monster?
What Cable Monster? ..>Comcast has to learn not to $hit in its pants without diapers first. I got a postcard in the mail yesterday from Comcrap congratulating me because cable broadband was now available in my neighborhood. There's only one problem...it isn't available yet.
How bad a management do you have to have to do things worse than Ma Bell?
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Julio
Bachatero y Que?
Premium
join:2003-03-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | Me no go DSL till.....
until DSL ISP offer a minimum of 2Mbit down and 384KB/s for a price of $41.95 or lower i aint leaving my cable service. |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| reply to BBC4544
Re: untrue
said by BBC4544  :
... have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
And with Packet8 and Vonage over a cable line, the evil telcos may have to drop the price of that bandwidth-challenged voice line too. Good times are coming!
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jscally3
join:2003-07-08
La Mesa, CA
| Linksys router not working with SBC DSL
I am having problems getting my Linksys BEFSR41 (4 Port) router to work with SBC DSL (Speedware 5100 modem). I successfully installed the modem and it's accompanying software.
After checking that I had access to the internet (yes, very fast) I used the CD provided (by Linksys) and followed the instructions for using the router with a DSL modem. At the point where you check the router to make sure the settings are correct (using PPPoE, username, password) everything looked correct. The router installation softwares next step took me to the Linksys registration page. At this point my internet connection ceased to function.
I followed the power cycling instructions from Linksys to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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jtudor
Xm 60's On 6 Freak
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC | Your post will probably get more response if you post in the linksys forum »Linksys
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big poppa pump
join:2001-05-18
Chicago, IL
| drop Comcast
Everybody should drop their cable internet thats the only way they'll learn not to raise rates every chance they get, I got rid of Comcast for SBC DSL and now pay $15 dollars less a month, am very happy with no problems at all.
I used to have ATT cable they used to raise their rates every 6 months, their the worst company ever.
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boogie74
join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI
clubs:
| reply to ib50MbSoon
Re: untrue
quote:
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
I'm not sure what century you're living in, but the last I checked, 128Kbps ISDN is NOT DSL. From the prices I've seen, I haven't ever seen a 2 channel ISDN line costing more than $80-100 per month either. $180?
This is a moot point anyways- has it ever occurred to you that the Bells are trying to encourage customers to change FROM ISDN to newer technologies like DSL by making price such a large factor? This is why parts for a 1990 vehicle are so expensive to buy. Auto manufacturers are trying to encourage people to simply BUY A NEW CAR!
This isn't to be able to gouge consumers.
"Gee... lower prices... speed tiers... extra items and options... must be a monopolistic attempt to gouge customers- they're only doing it to run everyone out of business that doesn't want to compete... then the price will be $8 million per HOUR! Just wait!"
Right... just keep complaining about how unfair it is that you can't complain anymore.
Boogie |
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jtudor
Xm 60's On 6 Freak
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC
|  No cable competition here
No worry for the Dsl providers here in Morganton, NC. DSL is the only high speed internet available here.
Cable internet was tried on the municipally owned system, but it failed miserably. The suits who had the power to decide how to implement broadband were totally un informed on any technical issues, and failed to seek any information from parties who were not involved in the process. The only information provided to the suits was from the employees of the cable system, and the companies bidding for the contract.
Failure resulted due to a number or reasons:
1. It was a one way system, dialup was necessary for upload.
2. It was priced at $49.95, just like DSL.
3. It was under publicized and improperly marketed, little newspaper or radio advertising, no mailouts (not even bill inserts), only telemarketing was done.
4. The office employees of the cable system had no information about the service, no pricing, not even a telephone number for customers to contact if they wanted the service. The response when I asked about it was that I would have to wait for a telephone sales rep to call me, because they were calling all cable subscribers over a 30 day period.
At the end of the initial contract with the city, one year later, the contractor pulled out without requesting a renewal. Grapevine information said they had less than ten subscribers. That may be an unfounded rumor, but that is the story I have heard from several sources.
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Frank
is chilling
Premium
join:2000-11-03
somewhere
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to ib50MbSoon
Re: untrue
said by ib50MbSoon :
said by BBC4544 :
... have said that the ILEC's will not lower their prices because they are evil. Someone please HELP!! The sky is falling!!!!
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
And with Packet8 and Vonage over a cable line, the evil telcos may have to drop the price of that bandwidth-challenged voice line too. Good times are coming!
i live in verizon land..... there is 10mbps cable (optonline), various dsl flavors (mci,covad,and verizon) and wireless (well supposedly wireless) in my area. ISDN is still NOT cheap in fact it never was and I doubt it ever will be. Verizon still wants obscene amounts of money for something as craptacular as ISDN even though there are many other viable options which are faster. It's always been this way it will always be this way. In other words I doubt ISDN prices would drop if comcast had cable in your area. |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| reply to boogie74
said by boogie74 :
quote:
The bellcos only lower their prices where they absolutely have to or are forced to by law. When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
I'm not sure what century you're living in, but the last I checked, 128Kbps ISDN is NOT DSL. From the prices I've seen, I haven't ever seen a 2 channel ISDN line costing more than $80-100 per month either. $180?
Unbelievable isn't it!
269-468-xxxx There is the exchange, pick a number!
said by boogie74 :
This is a moot point anyways- has it ever occurred to you that the Bells are trying to encourage customers to change FROM ISDN to newer technologies like DSL by making price such a large factor? This is why parts for a 1990 vehicle are so expensive to buy. Auto manufacturers are trying to encourage people to simply BUY A NEW CAR!
Has it ever occurred to you that SBC doesn't offer DSL in our area? The ISDN-car is the only model available from Coloma's Model-T phone exchange.
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Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs: | SBC
I'm glad I got in on the 6Mbit SBC deal for $99 a month while I could, it's sweet. Been a happy camper since I got it. Far better than my cable ever was, even when roadrunner was uncapped it wasn't as good or reliable as my DSL. |
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY
| DSL > Cable in my area
I think TimeWarner is preventing my DSL company to advertise the service in TV. (Roadrunner and TimeWarner are very close) While majority of the people in my town is on RR, I am on a better service.  3000 kbs down and 128 kbs up for $40! Screw cable. |
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | reply to BBC4544
Re: untrue
This is to F*&King Funny.. that made my day for sure |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to ib50MbSoon
said by ib50MbSoon :
When Comcast completes the HSI upgrade in our area, it will be interesting to see if SBC will still want $180/mo for a 128kb ISDN line.
We have had Comcast HSI for over a year now and Verizon still wants that much for ISDN.
I gave up on the telegraph companies. They still insist on wanting to sell me 100 year old technology when I don't want it. They could have retained me as a customer if they had bothered to provide the services I wanted, but they didn't... oh well.
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Cougar311
join:2002-07-18
USA | reply to big poppa pump
Re: drop Comcast
Well we could do that if we had a choice. I have only once choice and that is Comcast. DSL is not available in my area and probably will never be. I live 1500 Ft from the Co... |
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sd70mac666
join:2003-06-05
Saint Albans, VT | reply to tdkyo
Re: DSL > Cable in my area
Screw cable is right I investigated DSL after tons of outages with me on cable and it's been good for me so far |
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Marilla
I Am My Own Arbiter
Premium
join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH
| Catchy Title Here
hooo wheeee!!
I love the debates that spawn from these posts!
All I know is, in my area, our 'national' cable company has been raising prices and lowering bandwidth, while our DSL provider has been lowering prices and raising bandwidth, and the 'small fry' cable-company has been standing put, in the middle of the two, value-wise. And in both the big cable and DSL providers' cases, these are NATIONAL policies... some people mention that cable companies charge less in areas with Competition... sorry, but Charter in our area, with CAS as competition, isn't lowering prices.. they are just going up. Perhaps, though, that's because Charter still enjoys a much greater area in which they are able to get cable service to.
Welp, that's it for me... you all git back to your nitpicking and arguing about who is screwin' who! |
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PeteC2
Got Mouse?
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-20
Bristol, CT
clubs:
 ·AT&T Yahoo
| It's still Location, Location, Location....
Been on SBC DSL, generic package at 1500/128 for a year and one half now. Not the fastest service on the block, but the price, stability and service has been top-notch.
My dad has cable (different part of the state), also a 1500/128 service...stable, reliable, great service.
They're priced within a couple of bucks of each other...which is better? IMHO, it's a draw. Some places have mediocre DSL, due to either distance from CO/RT, or the provider involved. Some places have mediocre cable service, due to number of customers per node, or again, the provider involved. That's why you see such a wide range on "opinions" on which is better.
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Juke Box
Free From Marketing
Premium
join:2001-01-29
Bar & Grill
| reply to jtudor
Re: No cable competition here
I believe I read this story somewhere.
So Bellsouth has you stuck at ADSL 256 upload only while the rest of ADSL world can host games? Interesting
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