major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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| Doesn't Matter to Me
These so called price wars are useless to me in that most of the providers are offering the discounts to new customers. Existing customers get shafted and even if you changed providers most of them would hit you with an early withdrawl penalty much like a cellular provider would for backing out of the contract early. When the providers start offering campaigns that benefit existing users then I may take interest but for now the price wars are irrelevant.
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Sarge_0321
join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA | No Doubt
Make the prices low and keep them low.
Just offer low speed 384-128/64 DSL service for $19.95.
They'll rake it not only customers but bucks as well. They can always upgrade later.
Volume sales! Just like Walmart! |
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Dezbend
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join:2001-04-20 | Sprint
Sprint also extended its second quarter promotion into the summer for a "limited time"
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TXTigerman
Monopolies Kill
join:2000-12-21
Beeville, TX
| Well, whoopty do....
It doesn't do any good to throw these crazy price decreases at people if they can't get it in the first place!
As has been proven time and time again....
It's still the availability stupid!
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LegoPower77
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Arlington, VA
|  Shameful
These eeevil monopolies are just engaging in predatory pricing now. How dare they. And they think we're going to fall for it. I say, keep the price the same —oh wait, that would be collusion.
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Hall
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Dayton, OH
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Re: Doesn't Matter to Me
said by major marco  :
These so called price wars are useless to me in that most of the providers are offering the discounts to new customers. Existing customers get shafted...
Venture over to the Earthlink forum. Many of us existing customers got our DSL price reduced to $29.95 - $33.30/month just by calling and asking for a pricematch to the local telco's pricing. Have you tried ??
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major marco
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Stepford, CA
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| said by Hall :
Venture over to the Earthlink forum. Many of us existing customers got our DSL price reduced to $29.95 - $33.30/month just by calling and asking for a pricematch to the local telco's pricing. Have you tried ??
No, I haven't even tried because I'm locked into a contract with DSLExtreme and if I breach the contract then I get hit with a penalty.
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oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA | reply to major marco
Verizon Online cut my prices (existing customer) while like you Comcast wouldn't think of offering me their $19.95 for 6 month deal. |
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA
| reply to LegoPower77
Re: Shameful
No, they just require long term contracts and bundling with voice.
And yeah...some call these types of tactics predatory pricing (depending if lease rates also dropped which in 2000 they didn't as shown here).
»www.isp-planet.com/politics/veri···tor.html
And...while other providers choose to just reap in monopoly driven profits because cable is no threat to them OR prices may or may not include all the charges.
(headline)
»www.isp-planet.com/cplanet/tech/···611.html
»www.isp-planet.com/cplanet/tech/···ice.html
[text was edited by author 2003-06-30 20:21:06] |
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gsdan
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join:2000-07-12
Milwaukee, WI
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Re: Well, whoopty do....
How right you are.
DSL situation at present.Have RR for 3yrs (soon to be EL.They won't come to me or 20K plus other potential customers.Screw Em!
Cable is very good here.
Cudahy,WI 53110
Phone: 414-XXX-XXXX
about 21030 feet.
Wire center (CO)MILWWI42
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ReThink
@208.6.x.x | Think about it
Look up the meaning of a Monopoly. There isn't one in this market. |
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Tomek
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join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY | They hold CO and require CLECs to pay for the usage.
The money what they get from CLEC, they can use to lower prices.
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Hall
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Dayton, OH
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Re: Doesn't Matter to Me
Actually, that's what many people still under contract found out with Earthlink too... EL *knows* they can't go anywhere if EL doesn't match prices. The large majority of people who did get a pricematch were OUT of their contract.
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Marilla
I Am My Own Arbiter
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join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH | reply to major marco
Hmm... not true in my case; Not only did I, as an existing customer, get the new Verizon price, they did it automatically for me - I hadn't even called them yet about it. |
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Marilla
I Am My Own Arbiter
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join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH
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Re: Well, whoopty do....
Umm... yes... and your point is...???
Every technology has availability limitations - even dial-up (My first dial-up cost me a bundle - because I needed to make long-distances calls for it... usually, I simply used a local BBS to get newsgroups and e-mail, but for browsing, I had no choice... then again, I hardly ever browsed back then, since it cost me to do so)...
So... uhh... sure.. If you can't get cable 'modem' service, either, the prices are of little relavence. If you can't get Sattelite... if you can't get Wireless... if... well, you get the picture yet?
I get DSL fine where I am, as do many other residents in my area. To be honest, I was shocked when I heard that Verizon had put DSL in our local CO's, with us being relatively small towns in this area... but they did. |
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Marilla
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join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH
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Re: Shameful
Speak for yourself.
The Verizon price change came with no such 'catch'... no contract, no bundling (actually, there's a FURTHER $5/mo discount with a bundle like Veriations/errr... that new thing.. but $5 is hardly a big deal)... no extra fees.. nothing.
So... uhhh... I guess that theory flies out the window, too. |
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Marilla
I Am My Own Arbiter
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join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH | reply to ReThink
Re: Think about it
Well, if this is a monopoly, then maybe monopolies aren't such a bad thing.
Then again, I seem to recall switching TO Verizon from a competing company (Charter).. so... hmmm... |
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oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA
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Re: Shameful
Verizon requires that you must have residential local telephone service from Verizon (that's bundling for those of you in West Virginia) in order to get DSL service. Don't want local (DSL over a dry pair) or want DSL but a different local provider...Verizon will deny you residential DSL service. I'm not sure if they'll due dry pair installs with their business accounts (they wouldn't for me). And SBC does require 12 month commitment to get the special rate. With VoL, I also had to sign a 12 month commitment with a severe cancellation penalty.
Guess that theory just flew out the window.
[text was edited by author 2003-07-01 00:32:37] |
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA | reply to Marilla
Re: Think about it
Sure, if you have more than one BB provider serving your area. A lot of people don't. |
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oliphant5
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Corona, CA
| reply to Tomek
said by Tomek :
They hold CO and require CLECs to pay for the usage.
The money what they get from CLEC, they can use to lower prices.
Not only that but they lower their prices while holding high the prices to the CLECs making them have to compete with a price point that is virtually impossible to match. Such was the case in 2000 when Verizon did this. »www.isp-planet.com/politics/veri···tor.html |
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