BiG_Lou
join:2003-04-20
Yonkers, NY
| Very interesting
If it were me, I wouldn't have the balls to mock the RIAA, but it's nice to see someone standing up to them. More power to ya buddy! 
EDIT: First post! SCORE!!!!
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Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY
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| Bad way
Now he's violating the settlement by running his search engine. The RIAA will hit back, as always, really hard.
He may have 15 minutes of fame, but 15 years of debt.
I admire that he has balls, why don't he also use his head!
After reading his site, the guy is up to something. I hope it will work. I want to see RIAA loosing lawsuit. w00t
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dmd8605
join:2001-12-13
West Milton, OH
| "Nobody is above the law"
quote:
Weiss says the RIAA wanted to send a deterrent message others who had similar services up on their college campuses. "Nobody is above the law," she said. "And that is the important thing to remember here."
And by "Nobody," she of course meant "Nobody except the RIAA."
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Thanks to the many generous people out there, I have recovered my savings. Please don't send me any more money.
Say what you want, but the above quoted post from his site makes me at least respect him.
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drakkkar
join:2003-02-07
Houston, TX
| reply to Tomek
Re: Bad way
said by Tomek  :
Now he's violating the settlement by running his search engine.
Actually from readying the settlement he is not violating it. It stated that he had to take down Chewplast.com until he could ensure that none of the plaintiffs copyrighted materials would be transferred through it. If he has dummy files only, then he has ensured that it will not be used to copy RIAA songs.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| reply to Tomek
He's definitely playing with fire, but whether or not he's in contempt may be a different question.
It would appear the paragraph 3(b) of the settlement would control, and since he's not "selling" software, the question may well turn on whether he's [in the words of the settlement, more or less] knowingly facilitating the knowingly unlawful infringement of RIAA members' copyrights, and that could be more difficult to prove.
There's a difference between saying you can't use a technology for something, and saying you can't tell anyone about it. Patent law does this all the time, and if you're going to outlaw even discussion or demonstration of search technology based on copyright law, you have an awful lot of prior VCR and photocopy machine case law to overturn first.
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anxiious
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Natch. He's not running the search engine. He's running a demo of what it looked like using fake files. IE - none of the files listed are available nor are they even real.
This is not breaking his settlement.
I think he's doing good and I admire him for both his request to stop sending in donations and for his thumbing his nose at the RIAA.
Free speech is still free speech. As much as the RIAA would try to supress it. |
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AmeritecTech
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join:2002-09-06
Houston, TX | reply to drakkkar
It states that he has to take efforts to ensure others don't follow in his footsteps. If he's showing the world how his system works, that probably puts him in violation. |
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major marco
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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|  F*ck the RIAA
This is just another way RIAA is stifling technological innovation in the U.S. Wouldn't it be nice if all of US had an iron grip on the music distribution monopoly for the past 75 yrs that the RIAA has had and now since we find it inconvenient to adapt to the market, well, we just buy off a few politicians to pass laws to outlaw technologies. Isn't THAT nice.
Hey, I have an idea. How about all of the struggling analog ISPs band together and buy off a politician to outlaw broadband because it can be used to download mp3s. They can work to get broadband outlawed as well because it is inconvenient to change their analog modem business model. Make everyone revert to dial up again because -you know- broadband is evil and can be used to download software and mp3s and someone may be doing something illegal with that highspeed connection.
This BS the RIAA is shovelling down the throats of the bought & paid for politicians is the same deal. It's not about copyrights or the music. Those are smoke & mirror ploys the RIAA throws up to make a specious argument for its interests. It's about not wanting to change an obsolete business model to adapt with marketplace demands
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11337845
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join:2002-12-20
Seattle, WA
| BLA BLA
The thing he did wrong that made this illegal was IDENTIFYING files in his statistics section, such as "NES/SNES" and on and on.... if his system only listed files without identifying what they were, he would have had a better case in the first place. |
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anonodude
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| That's disgusting
Last I checked, the guy was only up to maybe 2 grand. The fact that this little bastard doesn't have to pay a cent of his own money is disgusting. The people who donated money to him should be ashamed. |
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drakkkar
join:2003-02-07
Houston, TX
| reply to 11337845
Re: BLA BLA
said by 11337845 :
The thing he did wrong that made this illegal was IDENTIFYING files in his statistics section, such as "NES/SNES" and on and on.... if his system only listed files without identifying what they were, he would have had a better case in the first place.
In other words if the technology had been on poor quality then it would have been ok, but since he was good at what he did it is not ok?
If he promoted its use for illegal purposes, then he broke the law, if not, then even if 99% of his users did, then he did not. (although a court still might have shut him down, just like a bar with 20 murders a month in the parking lot may lose its liquor license).
The issue here is that the RIAA can bully people around, because they do not have the resources to fight back... well Maybe this guy does now (he learned that if he fights, and needs the money, there are people who will contribute to his legal defense fund, and even personal contributions).
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Smokey
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| reply to AmeritecTech
Re: Bad way
not really, he must show them how to use his software code to write there own version of it to be in violation of the settlement
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Mirazh
join:2001-03-01
Mountain View, CA
| GOOD FOR HIM....
What the hell else is the RIAA gonna do...they already have his life savings.
Are they gonna take his computer away like they did to Kevin Mitnick. Please, I understand RIAA responsibility to protect their artists..(If thats what they're truly doing)
however they're becoming the internet police to some degree and its getting abit outta hand.
All this crap about ruining someones computer if found with no-no files in it. Its all just gonna go back to BBS and FTP if people don't stop this BS.
I mean crap does no-one remember the days of buying a cassette tape or vcr tape and recording your favorite song on the radio or tv show...ya the quality of that recording was worse the the real record or cd.....but so is a Compressed mp3 file compared to a nice big Wav file when ripping off the cd-rom. MP3 is ALWAYS less quality than the real thing. And I don't care if its digital or not it makes not difference what-so-ever.
And what makes me more pissed off is that there are PLENTY of people out there siding with the RIAA when they have tape recorded songs or shows recorded from their TV sets near there home f-ing entertainment system.
People share, its always been going on..FOREVER. Before the stinking RIAA was around even. I'll share whatever I god-damn want to whoever I god-damn want however I god-damn want.
So NOW because these less quality mp3 files are sometimes stored on a computer that in many cases has a connection to the net, that gives someone the right to look into my system and tell me I should not have this or that file in my hard drive, well then lets go to everyones house and look at their collection of films and tv shows and copied music from the radio, rental whatever and tell them they should'nt have copied all those things.
When it comes down to it its BS period.
I'm sick of hearing it.
SO I say good for him.
What is on MY computer SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY PROTECTED.
The system resides in my home therefore when you make MY hard drive access files to see what I have you are making it do that in my home, so you are controlling something IN MY HOME......SO YOU ARE IN MY HOME.
I can't wait for the BBS and FTP thing to get more and more popular.
RIAA=HACKERS...the worst type out there.
Some hackers do good things but the ones that work for the RIAA are up to no good.
They want to go into your house and look at your things you own, but they won't knock on your door they'll instead knock on your IP address...lol
Stay out of my computer RIAA, You don't own THAT!
And remember you are not the internet police.
Go ahead and track what you want, cause when you have millions of people trading files everyday are you going to go down your list of traders and HOPE TO GOD that you'll find someone who does not own a real copy of something she/he downloaded. hmmmm pure speculation indeed.
Most Smart people don't act on pure speculation.
Speculation=
Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition
So go ahead and take those millions of peoples life savings....lol....trust me its not going to happen.
Anyone who thinks that intrusion and speculation is a way to enforce a law or single out person is gravely mistaken
and something they better think twice on and look at their own audio/video recordings.
Then we'll talk some sense to this soon to be extinct RIAA unless they can see the light and change their ways.
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Shipon
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join:2001-12-05
Anaheim, CA
| reply to anonodude
Re: That's disgusting
said by anonodude:
Last I checked, the guy was only up to maybe 2 grand. The fact that this little bastard doesn't have to pay a cent of his own money is disgusting. The people who donated money to him should be ashamed.
You disgust me. This kid didn't even infringe any copyrights, yet you still see fit to insult the good-natured people who donated to this kid so he won't be living on the street. You are the one who should be ashamed for taking the RIAA's side, which is completely wrong.
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11337845
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Seattle, WA
| reply to drakkkar
Re: BLA BLA
Not quite..... by identifying them as NES ROMS and SNES ROMS, he acknowledged that he knew and allowed the trading of copyrighted files and had no safeguards to ensure that the people sharing them and downloading them had any right to do so.
That's what I meant.... he knew what was being traded. |
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Shipon
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Anaheim, CA
| reply to Mirazh
Re: GOOD FOR HIM....
I agree. I hope the RIAA executives get shot by snipers if they continue this senseless legal course.
I believe artists should be compensated for their work, but the RIAA's plan is by outlawing every distribution method that they do not use, to control the market illegally. Their copyrights are not, I repeat, ARE NOT as important as my important documents. They destroy any important documents, they better expect a massive lawsuit, that I hope will shut down the music industry.
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St0ney
join:2001-02-25
uranus | is this guy stupid
what if the RIAA sues him again.
how the hell is he gonna get out of that?
give them 12000 dollars more? |
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Shipon
Roflcopter
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join:2001-12-05
Anaheim, CA
| reply to BiG_Lou
Re: Very interesting
said by BiG_Lou :
If it were me, I wouldn't have the balls to mock the RIAA, but it's nice to see someone standing up to them. More power to ya buddy!
EDIT: First post! SCORE!!!!
[text was edited by author 2003-06-23 15:25:20]
You kidding me? You realize that it is still legal to publically mock a company, right?
I would take every chance to mock the RIAA. Hell, I'm doing it right now to the waste-of-flesh creeps
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
| reply to anonodude
Re: That's disgusting
said by anonodude:
Last I checked, the guy was only up to maybe 2 grand. The fact that this little bastard doesn't have to pay a cent of his own money is disgusting. The people who donated money to him should be ashamed.
I hope you honestly don't feel this way, or maybe you didn't understand the article... |
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