oliphant5
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So how many of you guys here are going to flock to Speakeasy to get this 2"x2" concerts? This may have been cool in the mid 80's when Metallica was still Metallica. |
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Archivis
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Alright. This is Archivis representing Metallica. We want to offer all you internet junkies complete access to view our online concerts and other head-banging goodies online, but we hope that you completely forgot that we really pissed you off back in that whole napster age.
That's all bridge under the water. We can be friends again (can i have your money now?), right?
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Jaime
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Huntington Beach, CA | Pissed you off? Didn't like that they wanted people to not take their songs for free? |
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Archivis
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| I was trying to be comical in a mock-representative from metallica. I was pointing out the irony in how metallica wants to now make an online presence when A) Nobody listens to them anymore, and B) they ruined their online appearance when napster was alive.
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Nightfall
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said by Jaime  :
Pissed you off? Didn't like that they wanted people to not take their songs for free?
I agree. Seems that song writers and musicians that stand up and publically say they hate file trading are blacklisted. Kinda stupid if you ask me being as that the people downloading music were stealing from them. Kinda like the fox blacklisting the farmer while it was stealing his chickens. 
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Jaime
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A) Doubtful since I'm sure there will be millions of their new album sold.
B)Agreed to a point, yes some die hard file sharers hated that they told the truth. While other more casual filesharers, like me, really weren't bothered that they spoke their mind about this.
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Hangmn
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It's as simple as this...IMHO...Melodica was once the quintessential non-success garage band and quite good....Yeah ok illegal file trading..."bad" albeit that aside...I used to own EVERY Metallica album ever stamped out by the music mills...yes I am old.
Metallica started ..nay LARS started a war...Jason Newstead left BECAUSE of Lars' HOLY war. They are simply WASHED up.Their funds were shrinking(not unlike Lars' HAIRLINE)and saw NAPSTER as the cause of their woes.
I will always have a right to use MY PURCHASED music however I choose.Be it compress it...put it on TAPE or stomp on it in my driveway...FAIR USE..I paid I will do WHATEVER I WANT with it.
No I haven't forgotten Metallica's internet silliness and No I won't be watching....
And it figures they would team up with a LAMER ISP like SNEAKSLEAZY who sold out a while back as well...
lol just my 2 cents |
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pnh102
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said by Nightfall :
Seems that song writers and musicians that stand up and publically say they hate file trading are blacklisted.
You're right about this... and I'll respect any artist that doesn't want their stuff traded... except for Metallica, who, when they were nothing back in the early 80s, wanted people to trade copies of their music... just so that other people would find out about them and buy the albums and come to their shows. I think its somewhat contradictory for a band that made its money by doing this to whine when people still trade their tracks online.
Besides... Metallica is just like every other 80s act trying to make a comeback... they're all washed up and need to retire.
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metalgirl
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Archivis..you hit it right on the head....
F*ck Metallica!
The "Real Headbangers" don't even want their lame ass commercialized crap anyway.
I wouldn't even waste my time illegally D/L'ing their crap.
MG
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Speedy8
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Yeah I can see both sides of the argument, and I'm not on either side. What they did doesn't bother me, since it doesn't affect me at all, and sharing the files after all IS illegal. But on the other side it's not like I don't download songs, but I DO in fact own all of Metallica's albums. I also own 12 CDs worth of bootleg concerts in MP3 format, but metallica actually doesn't mind bootlegs. Not to say I'll buy the new album if I don't like it, but if I do I just might, you get a lot of stuff for the $13 I've seen it being preordered for. |
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If you've heard any of the recent Metallica? The only thing you'll be banging your head against is a brick wall trying to ease the suffering of such terrible music. Though I do commend them trying to take technology and embracing it instead of doing what the corporations do which is fight it until they've lost and then buy it with their money and claim to have been there from the beginning. So sorry Metallica, I won't be buying anything recent from you, but kudos for being the guinee pigs that will later be disposed of when the timing is profitable to do so.
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wolfox
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*Shakes head in disappointment* The only reason why Metallica took off in the first place was because of bootlegging. People would show up at their concerts and dance hall performances and tape the live shows. The tapes circulated around - from person to person, duplicated and reduplicated. Eventually sheer demand for their music helped them get to where they are today. The foundation of which was all built upon by the simple word of mouth from bootleggers...
Then you actively participate in the RIAA's efforts to smack the back of everyone's hands that even thought about touching Napster - condemning the very same spirit and people that put you where you are to this day.
We still have to buy high priced music to get to this secret vault, and even then...Jeepers man. Have you listened to yourself or your band today? "Classic Metallica" - before the "Black Album" was pretty damn cool. You lost touch with reality, your "music for making musics' sake" spirit, and have forsaken all in the spirit of greed.
Good luck. You are going to need it. In one hand you condemn those that may be curious and want to try a sample before they buy - on the other you *think* people are going to buy your modern works. (I am laughing harder than an RIAA collector on his way to the bank.)
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Speedy8
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Re: Metallica Bad
quote:
I will always have a right to use MY PURCHASED music however I choose.Be it compress it...put it on TAPE or stomp on it in my driveway...FAIR USE..I paid I will do WHATEVER I WANT with it.
What does that have to do with anything? Sending songs to other people for free isn't fair use if that's what you were referring to. If not, then WTF were you referring to? |
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Speedy8
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Re: Lars, Lars, Lars....
Napster isn't really comparable to bootlegging. You get excellent quality recordings of studio material. Metallica has never had a problem with and still doesn't mind bootlegging. |
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Jaime
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Huntington Beach, CA | reply to pnh102
Re: Metallica Bad
Trading with your buddies and family is a bit different than trading with hundreds of thousands of people, don't you think? |
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Yea I remember the first time I heard them, I got a Copied Cassette tape of Master of Puppets and I must have listed to that thing straight for 10 days. I was like WOW! This band rocks and after that i bought every Tape and CD and went to all of their Shows and then when the Napster thing came about and they bitched, I lost faith in them... Oh well mayby they can grab the new Generation, which is generation Z right?  |
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Jaime
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Re: Lars, Lars, Lars....
Agreed, via their site: »www.metallica.com/metdotcom/help···ark.html
Can I record concerts?
Yes, you can record concerts for your own personal use, but we ask that you please not trade, donate, or barter the recordings in exchange for other goods or money. As a fan, you know that Metallica is very particular about the quality of their recordings and anything with their name on it. This standard of quality is lost when the band's name is used and recordings are distributed without their permission. However, before you record any concert, check with the venue. Recording may be prohibited at certain venues and it is up to you to determine this.
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Hangmn
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Re: Metallica Bad
Its real simple...I have bought MORE music being able to sample it.
Simply put Melodica shot themselves in the a$$.
If the RIAA and Metallica was a front for them then as now...would EMBRACE technology and quit trying to milk the public for every penny they would probably be making their "PROSPECTED" income.
And by the way p2p is for the i-net illiterate.
[text was edited by author 2003-06-03 15:15:45] |
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Sedated3
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Re: Okay
said by oliphant5 :
So how many of you guys here are going to flock to Speakeasy to get this 2"x2" concerts? This may have been cool in the mid 80's when Metallica was still Metallica.
Heh. Yes indeed it would've been cool when they were shacking up in a NYC run down hotel with Anthrax and immediately afterwards, but in recent history Metallica has irreperably stained it's Karma with many a'former fan.
... "For Let it Be Written, For Let it be Done, I'm sent here by the Chosen One... To kill the first born Pharoah Son.... I'm creeeeping deaaath!" ...
Metallica is in the same category as the Backstreet Boys these days in the mind of this former fan; and I did like the band at the time, enough to drive around like a screaming maniac listening to old cassettes.
The Testament ne'er Sold Out. Ozzman Made bigtime dough, and is a happy filthy rich, well medicated zombie kinda father dude these days.. Still never sold his soul to RIAA.
Screw metallica. Speakeasy should know better as I think netizens aren't stupid and Napster was basically a household word. You can follow your own reasoning wherever it leads.. I know I liked Napster for the absolute world-wide diversity of music. I mean I could find Rap from Russia and China, and Ozzy covers from Estonia. Metallica could've simply not signed up for that particular case and let Dr. Dre make his bed with some other foolish band, but they got greedy.
Hence they will never see another cent from me and I did buy a lot of Metallica stuff in the mid 80's..
What the hell was I thinking
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Sedated3
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Re: Metallica Bad
Give it a break guy. Tell me you never downloaded a freakin tune from the net. Please, at least be honest. |
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