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Comments on news posted 2012-10-23 10:12:48: Carriers today launched a joint initiative aimed at replacing your debit card -- with your smartphone. Today AT&T, Verizon Wireless and T-Mobile launched Isis in the trial markets of Salt Lake City, Utah and Austin, Texas. ..

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ArrayList
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

wow

this a complete copy of google wallet or did I miss something?


jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

Care Not I Do

They could be giving away Free Lap Dances With Happy Ending for the life of the contract and I still wouldn't bite.

My good old reliable plastic credit cards work great and fit in my (real) wallet.

Jim


Duramax08
Win8 sucks
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join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

^this.



richdelb
Go Hawks Go
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join:2003-01-22
Algonquin, IL

Same here. I'll keep my plastic.



AVD
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reply to jseymour

said by jseymour:

They could be giving away Free Lap Dances With Happy Ending for the life of the contract and I still wouldn't bite.

My good old reliable plastic credit cards work great and fit in my (real) wallet.

Jim

my grandfather said something similar about plastic debit cards
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dnoyeB
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join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
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Rooted wont work?

Rooted phones won't work with the new service? Interesting. When you have root, anything running underneath can't know whats going on. Otherwise its not really root.
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16

Angrychair

join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
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It may be doing a simple file system check for known superuser folders.

Of course the really obnoxious part of this is that technophiles (the same ones that like to root and control their devices) are one of the most likely groups for early adoption of a service like this.

By attempting to shut out people who believe they should have control over the devices they own this conglomerate is shooting itself in the foot.



dnoyeB
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Southfield, MI
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RFID

I hadn't noticed that some phones started shipping with RFID technology. That could be handy at my job if I got an app that will read RFID tags. Luckily I have a Galaxy Nexus which has the RFID capability!

I wonder why Galaxy Nexus was not on the list of phones to get this service from T-Mobile!?
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dnoyeB

"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes
9:16


dnoyeB
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reply to ArrayList

Re: wow

Google wallet is pure software. Its basically like paypal. As far as the banking aspect I think this is the same. Probably counting on the same lack of laws that is currently 'protecting' paypal from their blunders.

However, the authorization system is different. For paypal/google wallet your authorization comes from you supplying your password at some point. This system uses RFID so you don't need to enter any password. Its just like a speedpay system at a gas station or some of those toll booths that you just drive through. The presence of your phone is enough. Its a bit more convenient.

For me they will need to tie it to a credit card. Paypal, Google Wallet, etc. have nothing like the protectiions of a credit card. If someone hacks your CC, you don't loose anything. If someone hacks your paypal you are ass-out.
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16


Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
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Danger Zone




"ISIS isn't your own personal travel agency. it doesn't exist so you can jet off to Whore Island."

desarollo

join:2011-10-01
Monroe, MI

NFW

These companies have proven themselves time and time again that at a minimum, they can't bill properly for their own services and disputing charges with them is a mind numbing ordeal. I can't possibly trust them to act as a responsible and reliable third party billing agent.

Not to mention, tying geographical location, web browsing history, text, calling and now (wishfully) a purchase history, these people have way too much insight into my not-so-non-personally identifiable very personally identifiable life.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

Purchase Protection

Conventional credit card purchases (debit card? are you nuts!?) bring with them built in benefits like rebate points and warranty extensions. Fraud protection offered by credit cards is also unmatched. Perhaps if this venture offered something much better than these things, it might be worth considering.
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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

reply to AVD

Re: Care Not I Do

said by AVD:

my grandfather said something similar about plastic debit cards

Ah hah hah hah ah hah

If debit cards would've cost to the tune of about $1200/year, then you'd have a point.

Jim


Beans

@verizon.net

So.....

This means that phone theft will rise even higher?

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

reply to dnoyeB

Re: wow

Actually someone did hack my Paypal 2 years ago, and they reversed the charge as it was obvious fraud. Maybe because it was a purchase and not money transfer?

Ironically, I'd tried the Paypal debit card 10 years ago, and it was stolen with $50 on it that they never made whole.

luisortega

join:2010-08-31
Osceola, IA

reply to dnoyeB

Re: Rooted wont work?

said by dnoyeB:

Rooted phones won't work with the new service? Interesting. When you have root, anything running underneath can't know whats going on. Otherwise its not really root.

On Google Wallet anyway the program shows an "Unsupported Device" message at the top with root but is still perfectly functional.

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

reply to desarollo

Re: NFW

It's true, phone companies are the last respectable business I'd want near my wallet.


Morac
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Riverside, NJ
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reply to jseymour

Re: Care Not I Do

Definitely this. Anyone who uses a debit card to pay for purchases is an idiot since there are no Government protections for debit card fraud.

If someone makes unauthorized purchases on your credit card, the most you are liable for is $50. If someone clones your debit card, they can drain your entire bank account dry and unless you catch it quickly your SOL.

»www.usa.gov/topics/money/banking···it.shtml

Adding this ability to a phone, which is already has NFC security problems and you might as well just throw your money away.
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reply to jseymour
that's an deceptive comparison at best, the majority of the population now already owns smartphones, this is just a new application for the smartphone that most already own. I don't know everything about ISIS, but google wallet costs the user nothing.

This is just a the next logical step in our movement away from paper currency. 40 years ago people would have been saying the same thing about relying primarily on a credit or debit card.
These days if I have cash it's usually by accident, or I'm going to one of the last few vestiges that doesn't take credit card.
Flee Markets, Garage sales etc.

It may take another 40 years for this to become as common as the debit card is today, but it will probably be much faster than that.

Luddites need not apply, no one will force you. You can still use cash for everything



AVD
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Onion, NJ
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reply to pnh102

Re: Purchase Protection

said by pnh102:

Conventional credit card purchases (debit card? are you nuts!?) bring with them built in benefits like rebate points and warranty extensions. Fraud protection offered by credit cards is also unmatched. Perhaps if this venture offered something much better than these things, it might be worth considering.

this is for buying gum and soda at 7-11 on your way to the gym.
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