| let them live i say, Apple you did not give them the iphone, at least let them live, but somehow i have a suspicion that ATT is pulling some strings for this to happen...... |
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kudos:1 | Very clever Very clever of them -- if this stunt was intentional.
Launch the "campaign", pull it for "legal concerns", have the media pursue the campaign in their news reports of the "pulled" campaign absolutely free.
Case in point: I now know that T-Mobile is offering a deal to owners of unlocked iPhones without even knowing of the existence of their original campaign.
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Re: let them live said by marinemaster:i say, Apple you did not give them the iphone, at least let them live, but somehow i have a suspicion that ATT is pulling some strings for this to happen......
We don't know if it was Apple or T-Mobile who didn't make the iPhone on T-Mobile happen. I suspect that how it went down was that Apple said "we want a cut" and T-Mobile said, "hell no" then Apple said, "alrighty, no iPhone for you." |
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kudos:7 | reply to marinemaster
said by marinemaster:i say, Apple you did not give them the iphone, And by give I believe you mean enter into a deal where TMo pays Apple a small fortune per phone for the privileged to sell their device.
Why should Apple let them use their device in advertising without licensing it? If Samsung is going to get in trouble for having a device that looks similar, they aren't going to let TMobile slide for using the actual device in a manner beyond fair use.
ATT is pulling some strings for this to happen. |
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kudos:1 | Except that Samsung is selling a competing device with the intent of getting customers to *not* buy an Apple device.
T-Mobile's campaign actually would boost Apple's unlocked device sales. |
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| T-Mobile T-mobile is not dumb enough to pay millions to have the IPHONE. |
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Re: Apple Won't Like It I thought the iPhone 5 came unlocked. |
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| No legal leg to stand on by ATT or Apple T-Mobile has every right to use the image in advertising. They just have to ensure that the appropriate disclaimer language is present and there can't be disparagement or inaccurate statements.
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Re: Apple Won't Like It said by michieru:I thought the iPhone 5 came unlocked.
True... for some reason I was thinking more of unlocked iPhone 4 and 4S'
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cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
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kudos:7 | reply to tiger72
Re: let them live said by tiger72:T-Mobile's campaign actually would boost Apple's unlocked device sales. For the 5 people who are buying an unsubsidized iPhone with the intention to move over to T-Mobile? |
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kudos:2 | What's your point? How is this hampering Apple's bottom line? |
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The LimitPremium
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Re: Apple Won't Like It How? That's what I don't understand. Customers would have to buy the phone at full price. I feel like this is actually good for Apple because these "agreements" wouldn't have to exist if phones were as portable to other carriers. It's stupid that in this country, Sprint won't activate Verizon devices and vice versa, not because of technological limits, but because they simply won't. (in my personal experience, this has been the case, I don't know why exactly it would be the case for LTE devices).
I know that different carriers operate in different spectrums.
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Re: let them live Tmobile has said they have over 1 million unlocked Iphone users on their network and that was a while back. It maybe more or maybe less now , but it's definitely more than 5 
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| Customer backlash I suspect Apple wanted AT&T to be the exclusive carrier for the iPhone as long as it was in existence. Customer backlash over the exclusivity agreement forced Apple to make the free market decision to terminate the AT&T exclusivity agreement before it expired because it was hampering sales and customer backlash.
There are various reasons why people don't like AT&T such as living in an area with poor AT&T coverage being the main reason. Also, AT&T released a popular phone without the network capacity to support the hot new gadget (which is why they had to get rid of unlimited data).
I have had mostly good experiences with AT&T but decided to switch to Verizon because they have somewhat better coverage than AT&T and also better call quality. The decision to switch to Verizon was made after an iPhone 3GS dropped three times during the same call and would not stay connected more than a minute (despite having 3-4 bars of signal). I also had issues with network capacity and dropped calls.
Holyoke Mall (Holyoke, MA) was a bad spot to have an AT&T phone (particularly around Christmas) because their network would get overloaded. I have no trouble with Verizon.
Market pressure forced Apple to allow the iPhone on other carriers. I am sure Apple is selling many more iPhones thanks to the end of their AT&T exclusivity agreement.
As for me, I cannot wait to get the iPhone 5 and the LTE will be a treat considering that I live in a 4G area.
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Re: let them live said by cdru:said by tiger72:T-Mobile's campaign actually would boost Apple's unlocked device sales. For the 5 people who are buying an unsubsidized iPhone with the intention to move over to T-Mobile? Make it 6. I am going buy an unlocked Iphone and use T-Mobile. |
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Re: No legal leg to stand on by ATT or Apple It appears that t-mobile's legal department disagrees. |
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kudos:5 | Did you talk to them? |
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Re: let them live said by fifty nine:We don't know if it was Apple or T-Mobile who didn't make the iPhone on T-Mobile happen. I suspect that how it went down was that Apple said "we want a cut" and T-Mobile said, "hell no" then Apple said, "alrighty, no iPhone for you."
Just like Verizon before it realized how big of a mistake it was for them. |
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said by cdru:For the 5 people who are buying an unsubsidized iPhone with the intention to move over to T-Mobile?
And all the stolen iPhones sold on the streets. |
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