 cabanaDepartment of AdjustmentsAssistant
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| Geico IP insurance I am guessing at some point ISPs will make you sign a liability statement ... if you "rent an IP from an ISP" then you are responsible for whomever uses it ...(whether or not you use the IP yourself) ...
oh wait ... then ... you could buy liability IP insurance ... hello "Geico" ...
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| said by cabana:I am guessing at some point ISPs will make you sign a liability statement ... if you "rent an IP from an ISP" then you are responsible for whomever uses it ...(whether or not you use the IP yourself) ...
oh wait ... then ... you could buy liability IP insurance ... hello "Geico" ...
(I am kidding ... or ... am I ? )
Does iTunes still offer some crap rate like 128 or 192Kbps? Reason why I never bothered to use it was because the price for the quality that you got was crap. As I grow older I have found out that you always have to pay premium for the good stuff since everyone else is happy with crap. In the online world, the pirated music and movies are of better quality for free. Why pay for lesser quality? If you are going to pay you better be getting the 50GB Blu Ray or the flawless quality song otherwise not worth it. |
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 thegeekPremium
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kudos:2 | Seriously? Who pirates porn? There are more free tube sites than one could count. |
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| Depends on how BiTorrent works?  Some time ago I tried to download documents from a legitimate website and was requested to install BitTorrent Software on my computer. I did not install the software because of the potential of being accused of piracy. Since I do not use BitTorrent Software maybe someone can give me a heads up. Does BitTorrent search for files on every computer running BitTorrent Software for the desired file, or is there a database indicating the IP addresses where the desired files are stored? If the BitTorrent Software searches all computers how would the IP police determine which computers the files were being downloaded from, when many BitTorrent users may not have the files? |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Devil's advocate If let someone sell drugs out of my house even though I'm not selling the drugs I can still be in trouble. |
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Re: Seriously? Sad but true... but I guess it's put up or shut up time for porn companies. |
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 Camelot OnePremium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Greenwood, IN
kudos:1 | reply to Mr Matt
Re: Depends on how BiTorrent works? You are thinking of the Kazaa/Napster days where the software would auto-share files/folders, and sometimes even entire hard drives. The torrent protocol requires a torrent file be created for anything that is to be "shared". You would have to manually create the torrent file to share something. And there are a lot of companies using torrents for legitimate distribution, so don't be scared off simply by the software. |
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BitTorrent is not KaZaA.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent···ng_files |
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Re: Devil's advocate For selling drugs?
If you are the landlord and your tenant is selling drugs you get in trouble?
If your roommate in your apartment is selling drugs you get in trouble?
If your neighbor comes over and uses your internet connection to stalk or harass you get in trouble? (civil vs criminal)
Um nope. Not unless you are a willing accomplice, which just being the owner of the home does not show. |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
join:2011-08-11
NYC
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If someone gets caught selling drugs in Macy's, does that make the CEO of Federated Dept Stores a drug dealer? |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to delusion ftl
said by delusion ftl :For selling drugs?
If you are the landlord and your tenant is selling drugs you get in trouble? If you know and you just don't give a shit. yes.
If your roommate in your apartment is selling drugs you get in trouble?
If your neighbor comes over and uses your internet connection to stalk or harass you get in trouble? (civil vs criminal)
Um nope. Not unless you are a willing accomplice, which just being the owner of the home does not show. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to CXM_Splicer
said by CXM_Splicer:If someone gets caught selling drugs in Macy's, does that make the CEO of Federated Dept Stores a drug dealer?
Really? more hyperbole please. So a CEO hundreds if not 1000s miles away = homeowner unaware of what other people in his home does? |
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| Well, hyperbole gets hyperbole... do you really equate letting someone use your Internet connection to selling drugs? If you are already so biased, how can anyone have a legitimate conversation with you?
I assume since you had a problem with the distance from the crime then the store manager for that particular Macy's must be a drug dealer? |
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said by BF69:said by CXM_Splicer:If someone gets caught selling drugs in Macy's, does that make the CEO of Federated Dept Stores a drug dealer?
Really? more hyperbole please. So a CEO hundreds if not 1000s miles away = homeowner unaware of what other people in his home does? So, any time someone uses a pay phone to commit a crime like extortion or bomb threats, the CEO of the company which owns the communication pathway and makes it available to anyone, for a profit, should be arrested as an accomplice? He KNOWS that pay phones are used to commit many crimes, yet because he wishes to make a profit he still makes them anonymously available. Same logic the porn copyright trolls are using.
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I wish it was that easy. The problem is getting the cops to give a shit and do something. |
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join:2000-05-14
Greenville, NC
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said by BF69:Well in MY home I'm in charge so yeah I make sure nothing goes on. If something does then someone's day is going to be fucking bad. I guess in today's society being lazy is an excuse. "Oh you can't sue me I had no idea my teen-age son was illegally downloading gigabytes of porn every day. How could I have possibly known that?"
You're totally forgetting that your IP may be faked by someone. You have no control over that.
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Re: Geico IP insurance No they don't. Their standard is 256Kps now. Has been since '09. Which isn't bad since 256 is one step below the max of 320 and to be honest you will be hard pressed to hear the difference between those two bit rates. |
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Re: Devil's advocate You need to face it, at this point your argument is garbage. If my grandmother has her router security set to WEP, and her neighbor easily cracks the password then uses her internet for piracy, is she really a criminal?
If my same grandmother who knows nothing about technology leaves her router's wireless wide open, then her neighbor uses her wireless to download music. Is she really a criminal?
According to what you've stated, she is practically dealing meth from her living room. Come on, do you proof-read the things you type?
In this particular situation she isn't *allowing* anybody to use her router. They just are. No different than if you were on vacation and a drug dealer broke into your house and sold drugs out of your living room. |
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join:2002-06-22
Londonderry, NH
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If someone is selling drugs out of your house, there is reason for suspicion. You're there to see what's going on. Most likely you also know what's going on.
There are numerous legitimate reasons why someone would need to borrow your internet connection. Their connection could be down, they might not be able to afford it due to economic reasons, someone not from the area trying to look up a map, etc. Most of said reasons are legit in the eyes of the law (but not necessarily your ISP).
If someone asks to borrow your phone to make a quick call, you don't assume that they're communicating threats or sending inappropriate material to a minor. You assume it's important and try to help a fellow citizen out. The same can be said for someone in need for borrowing your internet access. What if it's not wireless a neighbor needs to borrow your computer to look something up? Do you just kick them out due to liability concerns or spy over their shoulder? Good Samaritan laws should definitely apply.
All WiFi hotspot businesses should come to the defense of this person. If a business can be held liable for content viewed/downloaded, we'll most likely see all WiFi hotspot locations go away. Goodbye Starbucks. I will miss you. |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9 | reply to BF69
said by BF69:If let someone sell drugs out of my house even though I'm not selling the drugs I can still be in trouble.
If you specifically, and knowingly allow: Probably.
If someone is doing it out of your sight and knowledge? Investigated, yes, to determine if you are complicit (actively, or passively). But, absent evidence of complicancy, no trouble at all.
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