| should give the person a job for doing this we nee more of this poeple to whistle blow in usa telco |
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| forest, meet trees.. at lest the deployments were getting done.. in the USA who knows how much money AT&T's collected from the USF only to freeze all deployment of broadband.. Verizon's theft of USF funds for expensive equipment in places where they are not needed are the stuff of legend..
Do they get any money for ratting on their employer? |
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 woody7Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | when you are exposing fraud, it isn't ratting............and it needs to be done here also..............
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sparks
join:2001-07-08
Little Rock, AR | never happen here In the USA I am sure the telcos can and will put you at the bottom of a lake and then say what report, whistleblower?
A democratice country by the rich, for the rich all others are screwed.
Socialism for the middle class. |
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 IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK | Quick note It wasn't BT who fired the guy, he worked for the government, specifically the DCMS |
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| This is why... This is why we need a national fiber infrastructure, where we can just get the tech out there for use. The companies that these governments have trusted to perform this function have NOT done what they were supposed to do, or at least what the public was under the impression they were supposed to do for the corporate welfare that they've been given. I know, there's going to be waste in the process and people don't trust the government, but if we're going to get taken advantage of, we might as well at least get what we want out of it ( a complete national FTTN infrastructure) and not hand control of the infrastructure over to those who have demonstrated that they would do harm by not fulfilling their past obligations.  |
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| reply to firedrakes
Re: should give the person a job for doing this Not only that, shenanigans like these is precisely why the Aussie Government had enough and decided to built their own FTTH network.
I guess much like ourselves, the Brits have people who will defend the private sector to death, all while blocking their ears to any evidence that illustrates otherwise.
In addition, repeating over and over again that the Private sector does everything better. |
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| reply to jjeffeory
Re: This is why... We definitely need a national wholesale FTTH network. Heck, we can even have each state manage it, since these last century states rights types (i.e. Republicans) love that sort of inefficiency; under the guise of small government.
By having the government own the underlying infrastructure, any number of 'Private' providers can then sell their services over it; versus the highly-competitive status-quo of Verizon. |
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| A national network would have serious privacy concerns. It would also put tens of thousands of employees out of work because it would take less people to maintain one network. One network would also utilize very few manufactures, which would actually be counter productive for innovation because the others would go out of business. And knowing how the government runs things, it would all be unionized labor (worse than we have now) and inefficiently ran to the point where it could actually cost consumers more money. Whether you are Democrat or Republican or Independent, it is hard to deny that the government does not do a good job doing any of their projects.
What we have now is not great. No doubt there. But a national network is not the solution either. We need to promote real competition and provide incentives for companies to do better. And reward those that do. And we could actually do that without spending a dime of tax payer money. We can fix the problems we have. We just need a government that understands the internet. |
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| This is the response I expected from someone. Thanks for fulfilling my expectations. Thing is, we've tried it one way and we are where we are. Time to try this issue another way. We've already given companies billions upon billions in incentives, yet they've not kept their obligations. I know what you're saying though. This is a difficult issue that we've been put in... |
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·Callcentric
| reply to silbaco
Why do you guys always have the exact same cut and paste response to anything new? Because of this baseless and irrational fear and paranoia, we have not tried any new approach in over 30 years.
We have tried the GOP way for nearly a century now and the results speak for themselves. We rank close to dead last in everything but defense, an area we now spend like the Soviets once did.
Whereas, the rest of the Big Gov world that was supposed to fail 30+ years ago steams ahead. They have an incredible living standard, a modern infrastructure, and cutting-edge mainstream technology.
We used to lead the world and were pioneers. What the hell happened to us... Reaganomics, that's what. |
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| reply to jjeffeory
And they never listen to this reality. It's always wash > rinse > repeat the exact same talking points, regardless of the topic or issue. |
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| reply to Telco
Re: should give the person a job for doing this said by Telco:Not only that, shenanigans like these is precisely why the Aussie Government had enough and decided to built their own FTTH network.
Would you be referring to the very same Aussie government that now wants to block all websites the they don't wish you to see? The one that wants to keep records of everything that Aussies do on the net? |
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| I'm sure he is, and that's the HUGE downside, but the corporations are keeping records of everything that we're doing as well, except they're SELLING this information to others. This includes the government. Also, the natural extension of all this capping and per byte crap is that they're ( ISPs) trying to keep us in walled gardens too. That's effectively blocking websites too. So, yes you've got a valid beef and THIS is why the issue is difficult. At this point, I just want the infrastructure out in a reasonable manner. |
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| reply to Telco
Re: This is why... We rank close to dead last in everything but defense, an area we now spend like the Soviets once did.  |
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| reply to HarryH3
Re: should give the person a job for doing this said by HarryH3:Would you be referring to the very same Aussie government that now wants to block all websites the they don't wish you to see? The one that wants to keep records of everything that Aussies do on the net?
ATT has them beat. |
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| reply to Telco
Re: This is why... You really seem to think you have my ideas figured out.
Blaming this mess on the GOP is stupid. This is not the GOP way, this is the modern American way. Until people look past party affiliation and stop pointing fingers, this mess will never get cleaned up. Both democrats and republicans have run our infrastructure into the ground because neither one has any real experience with fixing the problems.
Have you read the Patriot act? That right there is why we must never have a government network unless our government changes. It does not matter that it was signed into law by a republican, because it was just extended by a democrat. Our government does not understand where human rights should be. Everything else you are more than welcome to dispute that I said about a government network, but I don't think you'll be able. Reality is that.
When it comes to fixing our broadband networks, we can fix them. By setting some real regulations and real requirements that must be met and enforced with an iron fist. No, that does not mean 1gbps overnight. But the idea of letting companies swallow billions of tax dollars has been allowed to exist under both parties, because both parties don't know what the f*** they are doing. If we got on top of things and said they could not do that, must offer service to 100% of customers in their territory (many coops already do this) put an end to low caps, must have a certain speed available to all customers at a price reasonable for the local economy, stopped monopoly mergers and deals, made it more friendly to expand service to new areas, etc. We could offer incentives to help them get this done and we could fix this problem. But if we continue to say it is the GOP's fault or the Demo's, we will never go anywhere because both parties favor the companies. Neither favor us. And wishing for unrealistic national networks is not going to help us in any way. |
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| reply to jjeffeory
We gave them incentives with little regulations to see they did as they were supposed to do. No one has a backbone, that is the problem. |
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| reply to silbaco
Great point but bribery rules, so carriers own enough members of congress and the regulatory agencies to block any real attempt at reform of any kind. It has nothing to do with republicans or democrats - they both collect huge bribes routinely, along with the members of the regulatory agencies. |
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