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Comments on news posted 2012-10-05 10:40:55: A new study insists that Sprint's LTE footprint is significantly smaller than the company has advertised. When Sprint began launching markets this past summer many users noticed they couldn't get signal. ..

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Ctrl Alt Del
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join:2002-02-18

Their coverage choices

Sprint has (great) LTE in Ellicott City Maryland, but not in Washington DC. They cover a small town but ignore the nation's capitol. I don't understand the logic.
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rmrper

join:2006-06-13
Wylie, TX
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Study is pretty accurate from what I can tell

I live in DFW (closest LTE to me is the North most section of the map). This study mirrors what I have seen in practice, as the area I live is on Sprint's LTE map, but not available based on the map from this study. My EVO 4G LTE has only seen 4G signals in some of the areas this study notes are live. Last I heard is that DFW won't be closer to done until at least Feb 2013, and I think that is still optimistic. I really wish Sprint wouldn't have said a market is live for LTE without being at least 50% done. I'm not unhappy with my phone, but there are lots of folks on Sprint's user forums who got phones specifically for LTE service that was coming soon, only to find out "soon" may be closer to a year.


tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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reply to Ctrl Alt Del

Re: Their coverage choices

They'll get there eventually. If their network sucks in a small town while they're still testing things out it's less visible than if their coverage sucks in the capitol.

big_e

join:2011-03-05

Sprint will not survive.

LTE and their network vision upgrades are Sprint's last hope for subscriber growth/retention to gain financial solvency. Now it appears their upgrade is just a badly engineered as their previous network. Stick a fork in. Sprint's done.


Nunya Biz

@centurytel.net

Karl Bode

Note to Karl Bode..

The article is fantastic!

However, if you're going to provide an image (especially a map), you really need to offer a LARGER pic. The map(s) you've got in this article expand only slightly on click-through and remain much too small to be reasonably legible, or useful.


pende_tim
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ

Has Always Been Like This

Nothing new here.

IMHO Sprint's map as always overstated their coverage area since they first provided one may years ago.
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Atlantic, IA

St Jo is fine

I was in St Jo, MO this weekend and had great LTE coverage getting 20x10 in every building I was in.


LightS
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX

reply to rmrper

Re: Study is pretty accurate from what I can tell

I'm not far from you, yet Sprint has LTE over here I've heard. I'm surprised they don't have LTE coverage in Wylie, yet my VZW phone does...

georgeglass5

join:2010-06-07
New York, NY

Thats one of the reasons

I moved on to verizon, sure its not unlimited, but this reasoning of "Soon", is a cross I'll let them bare. They should have it all done, I figure in about 2 years, farming & LTE Build out, etc. In the meantime, 15 to 20meg dwn & 15 to 20 meg up on the S3 is wicked fast

gzub

join:2004-11-25
Franklin, MA

Sensoryly coverage for Sprint 4G

If you look at Sensorly's coverage reports »www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/S···10sprint from users with Android Phones it shows better observed coverage than what AFE reported. There are sections where there does not look to be coverage shown on AFE where someone has actively mapped the coverage on Sensorly...

Geoff

ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ
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Aren't they all?

Well the T-Mobile coverage map is total fantasy too. It shows good coverage nearly everywhere but they don't tell you it's all 2G and 3G while they don't have many 4G towers anywhere except near T-Mobile stores. On Samsung phones one of the firmware updates between 2.2.1 and 2.3.5 changed the display so it says 4G on the screen all the time now which makes everyone think they are getting 4G when they are really on 3G most of the time. The only way you can tell now is to run an app like OpenSignalMaps to see what kind of tower you are connected to. Their 3G can go up to 7Mb though so if that's all you are getting it's still not too bad.

cbobby

join:2009-06-14
New Windsor, MD

reply to Ctrl Alt Del

Re: Their coverage choices

This week they put up a "temporary tower" 4G...according to the tech I talked to - the one working on raising the tower - at the New Windsor water tower pad above the town.

I think they turned it on yesterday...I don't have a 4G device but my 3G speed is back to what it was when I first got Sprint in 2008.


deheza

join:2004-06-10
Allen, TX

Sprint has spotty LTE coverage in the Dallas area.

The coverage is very iffy in the Allen area. It's spotty between Allen and Love Field. It's very good at Love field. It's like the old Sprint days again when they had spotty phone coverage.
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to big_e

Re: Sprint will not survive.

been saying that.


swintec
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Alfred, ME
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reply to big_e

said by big_e:

Now it appears their upgrade is just a badly engineered as their previous network. Stick a fork in. Sprint's done.

Markets are only 20-30% done now and you are saying it is a failure? Give me a break. Their coverage maps suck for sure but it is far to early to say they are done.
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Prespd

join:2004-03-10
Wyoming, MI

Sprint SF Bay Area

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Great signal in Cupertino/Sunnyvale area in the Bay Area. Speeds on sprint only about 6MPBS, but for an non-official launch, I'll take it. 3g still sucking wind, and when you lose LTE, things like Pandora aren't switching automatically to 3G. So I hope Sprint is working on that. I'd sure like to submit my reports to help them tweak the system.

Edit, just checked 9Mbps down 5 Up. Inside office 4th floor not near a window.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17

reply to Ctrl Alt Del

Re: Their coverage choices

Sprint should state in the maps that it is expected coverage by Dec 2012 as that is when the first markets are expected to complete.

They could avoid this if setting expectations correctly. They'd be better off just turning on LTE in 100 markets, let users us it 'unofficially' and not 'announce' the market until complete. It would create positive buzz that users are getting LTE even though not announced yet.


Jon Geb
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join:2001-01-09
Howell, MI

reply to swintec

Re: Sprint will not survive.

Meanwhile at Verizon, they are working on secondary and rural tiers now.


Woody79_00
I run Linux am I still a PC?
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join:2004-07-08
united state

reply to big_e
Sprint could very easily survive if they would begin making the right decisions: To entertain the mind, here is what Sprint SHOULD be doing:

1. Sprint should have held off the LTE deployment....waited a year or two to even think about rolling it out...when it becomes cheaper, until then 3G is good enough. Upgrading to 4G after costs come down.

2. Since we are taking a more cautious approach to network upgrades, right away Sprint offers plans 20-25% cheaper then AT&T and Verizon. In the American Market price is everything...see Wal-mart...its matters not to 80% of the consumer market if Sprint has LTE or not..if its 20% cheaper then Verizon and AT&T and allows the users to talk, text, check facebook, browse the web...its a money maker...in markets where Sprint offers service its a winner.

Bill Gates said it best in The Pirates of Silicon Valley when Steve Jobs yelled "our stuff is better" Gates replied "That doesn't matter"

why did Windows beat Apple out? Answer is price...price was the single point that gained Microsoft an advantage...price.

If Sprint is smart, they will undercut the competition by 20-25% and hold off on upgrades until prices come down...3G is good enough for the next 2 years to the average American...let Verizon and AT&T play this upgrade game (while having to keep raising prices to do it) while Sprint pursues a more conservative plan of only upgrading the network once every 4 years while offering significantly lower prices for a competitive service while raking in huge amounts of profits to boot.

this would force AT&T and Verizon to either lower prices or close up shop...its a win-win for Sprint and they need to get on it....


jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

reply to Ctrl Alt Del

Re: Their coverage choices

That's saying something considering how hilly Ellicott City is. Also, it's part of Metro DC-Baltimore.

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