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Comments on news posted 2012-09-21 12:48:29: Though a parade of gushing, uncritical reviews have proclaimed the iPhone 5 a device created by gods that was perfectly hewn from the metal of the ancients, back on planet earth all is not well within the church of Apple. ..

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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Typical Apple Mentality

We are going to yank something that currently works great, because they are a competitor, and force you to use this piece of crap that is nowhere near ready. But we PROMISE it will work one day! Maybe!

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

Hey at least they did not say people are holding the phones wrong.
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Rob
In Deo speramus.
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Kendall, FL
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reply to ropeguru

said by ropeguru:

We are going to yank something that currently works great, because they are a competitor, and force you to use this piece of crap that is nowhere near ready. But we PROMISE it will work one day! Maybe!

I disagree, I don't think this is Apple mentality. If Steve was alive today, this crap wouldn't have happened.
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IowaCowboy
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iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

I cannot get some of the apps (like passbook) to work and it is very unstable on my Verizon iPhone 4.

I plan on buying the iPhone 5 but I have to wait for November 30th to roll around as that is my upgrade eligibility date.
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MPScan
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA

Main Issue

The main issue here is that Apple, under Jobs, never let unfinished stuff out the door.

Yes, they may have released some iOS versions that omitted functionality in the beginning (e.g., cut and paste), but when they did something, they made sure it was 100% complete, polished, and simple easy to use.

This iOS 5 Google Maps to iOS6 Apple Maps is arguably the first time an Apple product has actually moved backwards.

Steve Jobs would not be happy.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

reply to Rob

Re: Typical Apple Mentality

well Steve is dead, so this IS the new Apple mentality.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

might as well get the vastly superior Lumia 920 at that point.
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Rob
In Deo speramus.
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reply to inteller

Re: Typical Apple Mentality

said by inteller:

well Steve is dead, so this IS the new Apple mentality.

But it's not the "typical" Apple mentality.


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

reply to MPScan

Re: Main Issue

get used to it. This is how apple was after steve the first time, and how it will be this second time.
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to Rob

Re: Typical Apple Mentality

said by Rob:

I disagree, I don't think this is Apple mentality. If Steve was alive today, this crap wouldn't have happened.

Every single part of his cremated body is spinning wherever it lays now from this fiasco.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17

reply to inteller

Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

if you like waiting for DLLs to load.


Thaler
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Los Angeles, CA
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reply to ropeguru

Re: Typical Apple Mentality

It's all just a feature. Nobody really wants to go to Brooklyn.


J E F F
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reply to Rob
I agree, this disaster of a OS wouldn't have seen the light of day if Jobs was still alive. Now I have to go through loops to get back my iOS 5 back. That, or just go back to using a BB.
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J E F F
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reply to inteller

Re: Main Issue

Yes..but this time he ain't comin' back to save their ass! The company has had a major shift. Too bad, because I love their MacBooks!
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koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
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Ship it!!!

It seems to me that Apple simply shipped this crap w/out doing actual testing in each demographic/region. For some regions -- like Japan -- maps (transit, tram, et.c) are incredibly important, much moreso than here in the US. To give folks some idea how absolutely broken this is for the Japanese:

»www.japanmobiletech.com/2012/09/···pan.html

If you don't have any familiarity with Japanese culture and Japanese lifestyle/environment/demographics then the above article will read to you as nothing more than "map accuracy problems". Sadly it's a lot more than that. For example, how Narita is entirely gone (Narita is the main international airport in Japan; you have to fly in there to arrive from overseas), and how in that one region there's Chinese and Korean both shown alongside Japanese (maybe Apple designed that part for people like me, who can read Chinese and Korean but Japanese not so well. Korean reads Jidori, whatever that is...).

Stuff like this really chaps my ass. I might live in North America but lots of my colleagues, friends, etc. live overseas (some of which used to live near me but have since relocated). So it upsets me almost as much as it does them.
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to MPScan

Re: Main Issue

I think some of this is also part of Apple being clouded by their "War on Android"
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RRedline
Rated R
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join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA

yawn

Yet ANOTHER Apple hate fest. Maybe we should just create a forum devoted solely to bashing all things Apple?

I've been using iOS 6 for a week now, and it is not bad at all. It certainly isn't a drastic change, and it probably doesn't deserve to be called version 6 (5.5 maybe?).

As for the maps, it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. It really isn't. And it will all get fixed.

That said, I agree that Google Maps is better. The iOS version just didn't have turn-by-turn, which is a very useful function that really should be included on every smart phone. I actually have been using the Garmin app ($40) on my iPhone, and it works very well. In fact, it works better than either Google or Apple because it doesn't require data. All the map data is stored on the device, so it is fast, works in the boonies, and doesn't use as much power.

It's only because Apple has such a loyal base, and is so successful, that people feel like they need to bash them at every chance they get. Just look at the names in this thread and then the names in the dozen other Apple threads in the past week. It's the same damned people who feel the need to remind us how crappy Apple, iPhones, and iOS 6 are.

That said, I like my iPhone 5 so far. It's not a whole new experience, and it might be a long time before the next big thing comes out. Android has improved at a faster rate than iOS 6 has, that's for sure. Then again, it NEEDED to improve because prior to 4.0, it was a buggy, clunky mess. I wouldn't expect any drastic improvements from Google or Apple in the near future. I'm sure their cloud services will be a major focus for improvement.
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PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

Re: Company Promises Heavily Criticized Maps Will Get Better

Considering the sheer amount of openings posted to Apple's corporate website for Developers for their Maps functionality, I am actually inclined to believe them...

bigboy

join:2000-12-04
Palo Alto, CA

Works for me

Then again, I don't spend 12 hours a day looking at Maps like it appears some people do on the web. I actually use it to make calls, read News, use Twitter and browse the web.


cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

Iowa...

Tap Settings>General>Date and Time>Set Automatically>Off. Set the date to one year ahead (like 2013) and try again.

Notes:

Passbook is not available for iPad
Passbook app requires Passbook-enabled apps
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