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| This was always the most likely explanation. As I mentioned in the previous news article, this was always the most likely explanation so I'm not surprised.
As for why Anonymous would claim it came from the FBI? This might be why or maybe they just did it "for the lulz".
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
kudos:78 | betting time. My guess is they pounded the server and wanted to blame the FBI. I got $10 that says they don't say anything. |
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 EdrickI aspire to tell the story of a lifetimePremium
join:2004-09-11
Woburn, MA | FBI Really guys we didn't do it, I know we're usually spying in all your stuff and logging all your info, but for realz we didn't do it this time. |
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | Big suprise, the internet is full of... leet hacker dudes with megacool crib vs Guy in mom's basement
ultra hacks the FBI, vs steals from tiny publisher
total chick magnet vs wishing he actually knew a girl
online fantasy life vs totally lame reality |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
join:2011-08-11
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| Too convenient While I don't doubt that the data may have come from Blue Toad, I still say it is more plausible that DeHart (or someone working for him) was selling the data to an FBI agent. He even covers his ass in case AntiSec proves it was an FBI laptop:
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DeHart said he could not rule out the possibility that the data stolen from his company’s servers was shared with others, and eventually made its way onto an FBI computer.
Why would AntiSec make up that the FBI had the data knowing that the FBI would simply deny it. For that matter, why bother hacking anything at all? If they are going to make something up and blame the FBI, why not simply 'generate' a file of names, UDID's, phone #'s, etc.?
The whole thing stinks like a cover-up to me. |
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| Told you. Script kiddies find any kind of security flaw using their protocols (made by other people), break in, steal your information, then try to blame it on the 'evil government'. |
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Re: Too convenient »venturebeat.com/2011/12/27/anony···or-hack/
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More than 9,000 active credit card numbers were stolen from the security think tank.
In a high-profile incident that blew up the news on Christmas, the notorious hacker group Anonymous claimed to have stolen credit card data and other client details from Austin-based security think tank Stratfor, with the intent of donating $1 million in stolen cash to charity.
Quit automatically believing these scumbags. They say what they want so their mindless sheep followers will believe they have a good purpose in what they do. |
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Madison, AL | But why? Why would a small Florida publishing company even give a crap about a UDID hack let alone put forward the effort and resources to "analyze" the offending leaked data and admit it came from them?
I know it writes like conspiracy theory, and I admit it probably isn't, but if it were my company and unless the evidence of the hack and what exactly was pilfered was obvious, I'd never bother to put 2 and 2 together unless someone (FBI?) tipped (paid off?) me to. |
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| Perhaps, perhaps not Now first off, I could give a rats arse about iOS user id's, the feds, or antisec.
I don't trust any of them.
BUT.....
Everyone knows the feds will lie, steal, cheat, slander, and do anything else possible if they feel it's in thier best interest.
Sometimes they do it just for the hell of it, no reasoning required.
Apple has shown over and over that they will do the exact same, and have even less remorse than the feds.
Slave labor at Foxconn anyone (and for such a green minded company too!) ?
As I already stated, I could care less about anon/antisec/lulzsec/cdc/etc...
They (IMHO) do lie less than the feds and apple though.
Would I trust them before I trusted the FBI ? In a NY second.
Now for the kicker....
Blue Toad has connections to the DoD (google it up yourselves).
Who is willing to wager a fat check did, or did not, just appear in Blue Toads account ?
Remember, AT$T and the feds still deny sniffing and logging data and phone tranmissions in the US.
It all seems way way way too convienient.
Exactly how does Blue Toad warrant having 12 MILLION iPhone id's ? No way thier software sold that many times, it's nothing anyone I know would have on thier phone.
There are many free solutions that do the same, if not better.
If you look at the website for them, it seems they don't have any real product other than some proprietary book reader....fishy.
dare I say it.....it looks like a front. |
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Re: Too convenient The game is changed when it's Stratfor that's hacked. |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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Well, I don't know about the credit card #'s but the emails they got from Stratfor are very interesting!
»wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html
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They say what they want so their mindless sheep followers will believe they have a good purpose in what they do.
Haha, that sounds more like you are talking about the government! |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to Metatron2008
Re: Told you. said by Metatron2008:Script kiddies find any kind of security flaw using their protocols (made by other people), break in, steal your information, then try to blame it on the 'evil government'.
+1 All to make themselves feel like big shots instead of the pitiful basement dwelling losers they really are.
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kudos:2 | reply to SunnyD
Re: But why? Because if the company knew of the infiltration and did nothing, they are liable for a lot of unhappy customers. It's much better to take the PR beating up front rather than later in court. |
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join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | reply to TypeNameHere
Re: Perhaps, perhaps not said by TypeNameHere :Everyone knows the feds will lie, steal, cheat, slander, and do anything else possible if they feel it's in thier best interest. And the script kiddies and a lot of other people wouldn't do similar actions?said by TypeNameHere :Slave labor at Foxconn anyone (and for such a green minded company too!) ? Apple doesn't own Foxconn and it definitely isn't Foxconn's only customer. Why do people have such a difficult time actually pointing the finger at the actual one deserving the blame?said by TypeNameHere :Blue Toad has connections to the DoD (google it up yourselves). The connection that Blue Toad appears to post journal articles involving the DoD on its website?said by TypeNameHere :Who is willing to wager a fat check did, or did not, just appear in Blue Toads account ? I'll take the other side of that bet. |
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In the short time we've had a BlueToad App in iTunes, we have seen rapid growth in our online readership. The subscription feature allows customers to instantly purchase back issues as well as current issues. This has opened up the markets to international customers, as well as providing us with a vehicle to grow more on the web with new interactive features and bonus videos.
»www.bluetoad.com/BlueToad/shows-conferences
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DOD data policy focuses on sharing
JASON MILLER
New strategy requires more complex thinking about data use, accessibility
The Defense Department’s new information-sharing strategy will require officials to anticipate their data being used by nongovernmental organizations, coalition partners, other federal agencies, and state and local governments.
DOD leaders say the strategy represents a big change, and how well people adapt to it will largely determine the department’s future success. The new information-sharing strategy is necessary, they say, because DOD’s mission is evolving, and the military must often work with outside partners.
“The strategy promotes, encourages and incentivizes information sharing — which might sound like a softball — but it is a new way of doing business for us,” said Debra Filippi, DOD’s federal informationsharing executive.
“Our practices of the past need to change because we have been very sheltered,” Filippi said. “We are trying to inspire folks to make information accessible and visible and not worry about keeping it [away from] folks who don’t have an obvious need. It requires an uncomfortable shift from the past.” John Grimes, DOD’s chief information officer, signed off on the new informationsharing strategy May 4.
»www.bluetoad.com/display_article.php?id=5354 |
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Blue Toad is a little-known privately held company, but its technology touches millions of users around the world. It provides private-label digital edition and app-building services to 6,000 different publishers, and serves 100 million page views each month, DeHart said. He declined to discuss business partners, but said the list of clients includes household names.
DeHart said his firm would not be contacting individual consumers to notify them that their information had been compromised, instead leaving it up to individual publishers to contact readers as they see fit.
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There is no way for users to check to see if their UDID information has been collected by Blue Toad, DeHart said.
»redtape.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/0···eek?lite |
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Tulsa, OK | reply to Edrick
Re: FBI well ya know, I don't really care WHO they got the data from, someone, either these yokels or the FBI, were capturing UUIDs and is is complete BS.
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join:2006-09-05
Kelowna, BC
kudos:2 | Wut? Really? 
said by Paul Dehart :
"As soon as we found out we were involved and victimized..."
Victimized? Seriously? More like poor sec skills. What an idiot.
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Re: Told you. said by Metatron2008:Script kiddies find any kind of security flaw using their protocols (made by other people), break in, steal your information, then try to blame it on the 'evil government'.
Nailed it. They know we have some bizarre baseless paranoia with law enforcement and government. Therefore, these actual and real crooks make out scot-free with our info and data.
This recession illustrates that it's still extremely easy to scapegoat the government, due to its abstract nature. All while the real perpetrators are drinking their piña colada and free to do it again. |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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Even if it happened the way it is now being reported (which I think is questionable) you guys seem to be missing the point... ANY business or government agent that has millions of sensitive personal records should take the time to secure their computer against 'pitiful basement dwelling loser script kiddies'. After all, if losers like that can 'break in', pretty much anyone can.
In fact, I would consider Blue Toad more liable for the breach of security than the script kiddies. The sad part is that there are millions of similar companies out there with our records in just as insecure systems. Blue Toad sounds like they are whining that their unsecured WiFi was 'stolen' and someone else downloaded a movie.
There is also the question of why Blue Toad had the UDIDs at all. From what the article said, they did not deal with the end users... they dealt with publishers. So why was Blue Toad collecting the data of the end users? |
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