| Left Frontier almost a year ago And have not looked back. My current upload speed of ~1.6 mbps is more than HALF of what I was getting as a downstream speed for twice the price I am paying now. Terrible product offering to consumers that is unfortunately for some the only option. It seems that if you are only looking to use the internet for browsing, email and occasional movie streaming/downloads you'd be better off buying a 70-80 mobile 4G hotspot and get speeds and service beyond that of what Frontier is offering. |
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| That's great, good for you, at least you have options...most of these areas being served with UPGRADED service have spotty at best 3G/4G coverage and Verizon DEFINITELY had NO plans of even doing anything remotely as close as this.
At least Frontier is DOING something in these areas, it's not like they have to, they don't have ANY competition.
Where would the incentive be to spend $$ on upgrading infrastructure/backbone to support more speeds if they weren't being pushed by the competition? Granted the only push now would be by the eventual deployment of better wireless coverage, but those options are STILL CAPPED! |
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| Ugh. If you haven't read the comments in the Frontier forum, please do.
Our local "remote" DSL box is FULL. I've been bugging the snot out of Frontier to bring us faster speed but it goes by the number of requests they get in any area! I'm still trying to get the temporary cable buried, which resulted in a long strip of weeds down my front yard since last October. |
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Re: Left Frontier almost a year ago I totally agree with you. DSL isn't a competition to cable or cell coverage in performance, it's a competition to them in price. One of my relatives is still on dial-up. Their choices include cable, some form of cell hotspot, or satellite. Out of those options the cheapest is around $40 a month. For someone who occasionally reads the news and checks their e-mail once a week on the computer, it's pretty hard to justify spending that much for internet. If they could get DSL I would have them on a 768k plan for around $15 - $20 a month. It would completely blow their current service out of the water and not really cost much more. |
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| $$ better press release would be about how they're using the usf & government "stimulus" money to wire FTTP and do it the RIGHT way.. or did only fairpoint get money? |
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| Frontier Premium High Speed DSL -- NW Indiana Without notice, about six months ago Frontier began tacking on a surcharge to a locked-in fee contract for its so-called premium high speed DSL, 3 to 5 Mbps service in NW Indiana, part of the old Verizon network. Funny thing, though, the fastest non-Frontier DSL test speed has been 2.8 Mbps download, 0.788 Mbps upload. I have mentioned this to Frontier and it says I am receiving the 3 to 5 Mbps service. In other words, tough, we say we are providing you with our 3 to 5 Mbps service, OUR tests show you are getting 3.3 Mbps, and we are charging you extra for that service, so all of those other benchmark tests are irrelevant and just plain lying.
A number of times service has slowed to less than 1 Mbps, although uplink speed remained at 0.65+ Mbps.
Frontier apparently has no local backup for its Portage, Indiana, server. I have experienced a number of local, non-weather related outages at say, 0230, that have lasted until about 0530, perhaps the time its tech people are arriving at work and reviewing status reports in the Eastern time zone. So its service is somewhat lacking.
On a plus side, when talking by phone, I can understand the USA-based tech help, whereas with Verizon, often I could not because of their heavy foreign accent and echoes. Also, the Frontier tech help tends to give more realistic and helpful status reports, such as following a local server channel failure. |
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| Wow I am in NW Ohio we are getting Screwed Wow I am in NW Ohio we are getting screwed by Frontier here only thing we can get is 7meg x 768kbps that is even the co can even carry it what makes Appalachian Ohio area so special? while they cant upgrade the whole state of ohio like that? of should I say everystate who haves frontier? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Pricing & Speeds Looks like the 12/2 bonded service, if you can get it, is $60 per month. Not horrible for that speed if there's nothing else available, but definitely venturing into cable territory for pricing. Speeds aren't great, sure, but if you're in an area that isn't served by cable, even if you can get 4G its speeds are going to only be comparable, for a higher price.
NekoSaur's postings on the Frontier forum suggest that Frontier may have a LOT of room to up speeds to some of their customers, but is choosing not to do it. He could probably hit 25/2 without having any last-mile connectivity issues on his bonded system...maybe even 30/2 or 35/2...or even more with Annex M. Unfortunately Frontier isn't offering more than 15/2 yet, for fear that only five people in an entire city will have loops short enough to sustain higher speeds...or maybe their backbone network can't handle it :/ |
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| Nekosaur and I share the same CO. He is to the west by a couple of miles, I am north by 10. I have fiber under the major road that leads to the box. Apparently the upgrade is very pricey and I suspect that my neighbors are so used to being shafted by ISP's they don't assume faster speeds could be available if we ask. So far I seem to be the only one bugging Frontier. |
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Re: Wow I am in NW Ohio we are getting Screwed I'm in east central Ohio and they skipped our place over a town that has less than 400 people in it.
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | reply to iansltx
Re: Pricing & Speeds $60/month for 12/2 is not bad at all, for Frontier.
That's on par with AT&T U-Verse.
Neither service would be my first or second choice, but if I was living in a town of 400 households 100 miles from nowhere, and fortunate enough to have an RT piped from the CO ten miles away, I'd be very willing to pay $60/month for 12/2. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | As would I. My parents pay around $30, plus landline costs (about $20 for local calling only and no calling features), for a 1.5/384 line from Verizon. To my knowledge there are no DSL-enabled RTs in their town of ~10,000. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to tmc8080
Re: $$ said by tmc8080:better press release would be about how they're using the usf & government "stimulus" money to wire FTTP and do it the RIGHT way.. or did only fairpoint get money?
Frontier will be getting Connect America Fund money but it's a maximum of $750 for an "unserved" household. Try bringing FTTP to a rural household for $750. |
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 DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
kudos:78
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| said by Sammer:Frontier will be getting Connect America Fund money but it's a maximum of $750 for an "unserved" household. Try bringing FTTP to a rural household for $750.
not picking just thinking... Wasn't verizon's Fios cost per household over $1k? I keep thinking it is. With $750 per household they could run fiber to the pole (FTTP) and do wireless from there, that might be tougher though. For the rural areas I think WiMAX would be the winner.
Anyway just my opinion to share and debate/discuss.
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DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
kudos:78 Reviews:
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| reply to elray
Re: Pricing & Speeds said by elray:$60/month for 12/2 is not bad at all, for Frontier.
That's on par with AT&T U-Verse.
Neither service would be my first or second choice, but if I was living in a town of 400 households 100 miles from nowhere, and fortunate enough to have an RT piped from the CO ten miles away, I'd be very willing to pay $60/month for 12/2.
I agree as well, granted there are faster options in town with charter cable,but not seeing the bright side as I finally will cut the landline budget this year for a good voip provider. I plan on using one of the two WAN providers this year for Clear wireless.
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | What equipment? Anyone know what equipment they are using to do bonding? Which DSLAM, which modem make & model, and whether they are using ATM G.bond or the newer PTM bonding?
-Dane |
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| not bad move considering many of the vacation beach houses in Michigan probably have Frontier as the only option. If they do well in Ohio, they'll expand. |
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| reply to DaneJasper
Re: What equipment? I just had this installed today. The modem they gave me is a ZyXEL.
Huge white box.
Model # P-663HN-51 |
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DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9 | said by crucify:I just had this installed today. The modem they gave me is a ZyXEL.
Huge white box.
Model # P-663HN-51
Thanks. That means they're continuing to use ATM, with G.bond, the older technology, generally used on ADSL2+ DSLAMs.
Here's the ZyXel product: »www.zyxel.com/products_services/···html?t=p
Thanks for the info. |
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| The thing that was nutty, the tech told me this just came available here. Then, he says that VDSL will be available next week for us.
I'll be upgrading again next week. |
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