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| Microsoft is eating their lunch in the living room anyways. No one will want to play craptastic iPhone games on a large screen and Microsoft is already killing them in the app space with stuff like Crackle and HBO GO. Sure the paywalls suck, but that can change over time. Microsoft was willing to deal with the cable devils in order to get a foothold.
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 fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
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Atlanta, GA | No Crapple! Meaning, Apple can't get broadcasters, cable companies, and studios to bow down to Apple's proprietary technology to make Apple a defacto "standard" that Apple can patent and threaten everyone else with.
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| Good Good, Apple would just find a way to make tv even more expensive and consumer un-friendly. |
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 PhoenixDown-- Wants FIOSPremium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Why can't Apple go solo w/ TV Tuner Card? Like the subject says -- Apple has enough clout that they should be able to roll it out with a built in, or at a least slot for, a cable tuner card.
If Tivo can do it, I am sure Apple can too and maybe it would help their positioning at the bargaining table. |
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steven sPremium
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Dearborn, MI | reply to fuziwuzi
Re: No Crapple! Exactly. The cable industry is already in dire straits in the long run - why would they want to make things even worse for themselves? |
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Re: Why can't Apple go solo w/ TV Tuner Card? only will work in the usa and you have to deal with the very UN apple cable consumer support.
SDV systems will need usb ports for the add on SDV tuner.
No VOD , NO or need to call in to order PPV evnets. |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
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kudos:2 | MSOs are afraid of being relevant again As alternatives grow, they want to take the same tact as the music industry...repel customers, raise prices and hope that customers bend over and take it.
The media industry never learns. Adapt or die. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | they are also scared of losing box rental revenues. Which is why we do not see an active and wide push for something like DOCSIS for CATV. Basically so anybody could make a box and it would just get a bootfile telling it what channels it can decrypt.
I think True2Way was supposed to be this at launch but it blew up before first stage separation.
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to PhoenixDown
Re: Why can't Apple go solo w/ TV Tuner Card? There is also the sticky web of patents going with something Tivo style. This is one arena where Apple would have to license things rather than holding all the cards and being able sue everybody who makes a DVR.
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skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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Re: MSOs are afraid of being relevant again Of course, just like the music industry wanted you to spend $15 for an entire CD just to get one song. That's the reason they won't cut programming retransmit deals and the reason they cap HSI (there is no bandwidth crunch, it's all bull to stop people from using the service to stream video). |
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Re: No Crapple! Haha people really believe this?
The cable industry is making it worse for themselves by NOT working with Apple. |
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This post is so full of incorrect information I don't know where to start. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
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kudos:2 | reply to PhoenixDown
Re: Why can't Apple go solo w/ TV Tuner Card? Apple doesn't want to be another Tivo. It wants to pull off a coup in the video space as it did in the music arena. Adding a cable card isn't that big of a deal. "Owning" the living room is. |
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amungusPremium
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| Too late I'm sorry, but my Win7 Media Center is just fine. Until they can come up with something even half as appealing, I honestly don't care.
It also happens to be, um, a full fledged computer underneath, should I wish to do pretty much anything with... |
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Re: No Crapple! Oh? Why don't you start somewhere and begin to tell us? |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to skeechan
Re: MSOs are afraid of being relevant again said by skeechan:As alternatives grow, they want to take the same tact as the music industry...repel customers, raise prices and hope that customers bend over and take it.
The media industry never learns. Adapt or die. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a cord-cutter with regards to TV. But I have to respectfully disagree.
The pay-tv industry still has about 100 million paying customers and only a small number of people, about ~125k, have actually dropped service without going to another provider. Most of the churn in this racket is due to customers dropping expensive service with one provider and trading it for less expensive service with another provider.
»www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/···20120802
»Ridiculous
125k potential customers, out of ~100 million, isn't even a statistical blip. Content providers lose nothing by not being bothered to deal with us on terms of our choosing, especially since we quit cable because we do not want to pay a lot of money for content.
The one long-term thing that is working in favor of those of us who cut the cord is that it seems that overall pay-tv subscriber growth is flat, and that gains made by one provider appear to be coming from the expense of another provider. If the trend of endless price hikes continues, simple economics tells us that more people will drop pay tv altogether.
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 morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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Re: Why can't Apple go solo w/ TV Tuner Card? No business cares about clout when it is businesses competing for the $200 billion video market. Letting Apple in means the beginning of the end of the existing model. This is the same reason why streaming and IPTV of channels is the boogie man. It will reshuffle the deck, and the current players all have royal flushes. |
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| I said this before... but I believe the only company(s) that will be able to get past the cable/broadcast "blockade" are ones that already OWN a large quantity of the content.
A likely candidate would be Sony and their PS3. They own a large chunk of TV shows as well as a large quantity of movies. If they made the commitment to do it, I believe they could pull it off. I just don't think they are willing to make that move. |
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Re: MSOs are afraid of being relevant again And there will continue to be cheaper and cheaper providers and the "old model" of charging $100+ for CATV locked to their overpriced hardware will be a distant memory. This news item isn't about cord cutting but MSOs not wanting to open the door to what would amount to be a 'new provider'.
They can be part of that inevitable future or they can be the RIM of the home entertainment industry scrambling to figure out how to respond 3 years too late.
Just like AT&T saw huge growth as a result of having the 'gotta have it device', it only takes one provider, perhaps a DBS provider to do the same, leading a mass exodus if the product isn't a complete piece of poopy. Then suddenly the MSOs will want to be on board just like VZW wanted on board after balking at first. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to morbo
Re: Why can't Apple go solo w/ TV Tuner Card? Content will never get cheaper, as a show gets more popular the stars demand more and more money. Some getting over half a million per episode. that money has gotta come from somewhere and unless every single content maker starts to refuse these outrageous salaries they all have to pay it or the big names walk. And as such we have to pay it be it with cable bills or increases in the cost of streaming to pay for the royalties increases.
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