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Comments on news posted 2012-08-27 10:32:12: Videotron customer Arthur Pequegnat is unsurprisingly annoyed at the fact that he was locked out of his own account by the cable operator -- and had his emails deleted completely. ..

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skeechan
Ai Otsukaholic
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AA169|170
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·Cox HSI
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You have to bring in a body to change a Cox account

My neighbor went through hell trying to get his wife's name off an account. She ended up having to show up to the main Cox office in person with him before they would finally do it.

Meanwhile I wonder if this act by his wife would be actionable.


rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON

This guy is a moron.

That's what you get for using ISP email.


nonamesleft

join:2011-11-07
Manitowoc, WI

sounds like a case of spite

Women really are truly evil.


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

This is why some of them mysteriously drown in bathtubs.



Mannus
Premium
join:2005-10-25
Fort Wayne, IN
Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS

reply to nonamesleft

Here's the math to prove it.


baineschile
2600 ways to live
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI

clever girl



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

1 edit

reply to rodjames

Re: This guy is a moron.

Yup. Blame the OP. That's the solution.

Edit: Sorry, forgot the /s tag.


nonamesleft

join:2011-11-07
Manitowoc, WI

reply to Mannus

Re: sounds like a case of spite

Interesting response.


Ncrdrg

@videotron.ca

Don't see how that could not be Vidéotron's fault here

When you have a primary account holder, adding someone else so they can control transactions too should not mean they can take over anytime they want. That's a pretty blatant problem with their policy. It was his wife after all. This shouldn't be uncommon.

The fact that they required identification for adding this 2nd person but not for kicking out the primary is ridiculous. And that they refuse to resolve the situation after the fact is nothing less than shitting all over your customer.

A 2nd user should NEVER be able to boot out a primary user without authorization. This goes against security common sense (or a death certificate). If I decide to make a joint account with someone, do you honestly think a bank will let one of the two parties kick out the other and claim the account? Hell no! They'd be held legally responsible for this. And Vidéotron is in a worse position here since they booted the primary account holder.

I support this man to sue both Vidéotron in small claims court and go after his ex-wife for fraud. He should probably talk to his divorce lawyer about this, there might be a possibility of criminal charges being raised by this act. I quote (Wikipedia) 'In criminal law, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual'. This seems to fit the bill in both accounts but I guess it depends on what she told Vidéotron to get him booted.

So if I were him, I'd be pursuing: 1 - A CRTC complaint, 2 - A lawsuit against Vidéotron and 3 - A police complaint to have his wife indicted for fraud.


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

reply to Mannus

Re: sounds like a case of spite

LOL.. I've seen that before..

xkcd?


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

1 edit

So..

If you put a "secondary" account holder on your account, they can do anything to the "primary" account holder's account?

Wow.


Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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·Comcast
·Callcentric
·Site5.com

So, let me get this straight...

A man opens an account. This guy also adds his wife to the account, which makes sense. His wife has full access to the account as a result. Then, his wife felt the need to cancel the account since they are going through a messy divorce. The man, who is pissed off that his account was removed and all his emails deleted as a result, calls customer care to complain. The customer care rep said that "something happened" but didn't explain.

I guess the only issue I see here is that his wife was a vindictive spouse.

Did the man give her access to the account? Yes
Did the woman have access to delete everything since she was on the account? Yes
Was the account deleted by someone who didn't have access? No

Seems like a pretty open and shut case to me. If I was him, I would go back and ask for the account to be reopened and his email account restored. Oh, and don't add the soon to be ex-spouse to the account as well.

Problem solved.
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Linklist
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5

reply to nonamesleft

Re: sounds like a case of spite

said by nonamesleft:

Women really are truly evil.

In a divorce, the lengths the parties will go to to screw each other over is truly amazing. This isn't some ISP story. This is a marriage breakups can be REALLY messy story.
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battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Not the ISP's Problem

This is not the ISP's problem, it's his problem. He added her to the account and she then used the authority to delete the account. It's not the ISP's job to play referee in this situation. It's also not their job to keep backups of everything just in case the evil bitch does this kind of thing.
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Dude111
An Awesome Dude
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USA
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reply to nonamesleft

 

Yea they can be...... Feel bad for the guy!


stray

join:2000-01-16
Warren, NJ

Reason #99

Yet another reason never to use your ISP for your email account, the number one reason being that it makes things hard when you're switching ISPs, whether you're getting a divorce or just a better deal elsewhere on internet service.
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MaynardKrebs
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reply to battleop

Re: Not the ISP's Problem

He sues her for lost income & reputation with his employer and clients. Maybe in the amount of her share of the divorce settlement + his costs + punitive damages.


battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

He would have to prove there was an actual loss.

Everyone who has ever worked in support has heard the "I am losing (insert exaggerated amount here) per hour because (insert some service here) is down."
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cramer

join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:7

reply to skeechan

Re: You have to bring in a body to change a Cox account

said by skeechan:

Meanwhile I wonder if this act by his wife would be actionable.

It is, and will burn her seriously in the divorce. (At least in the US, who knows in Cananada)


tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
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·Comcast

reply to MaynardKrebs

Re: Not the ISP's Problem

said by MaynardKrebs:

He sues her for lost income & reputation with his employer and clients. Maybe in the amount of her share of the divorce settlement + his costs + punitive damages.

We don't know enough to reach that conclusion.
Suppose part of the divorice is about his use of the internet account for porn, she could then argue she thought it might save the marriage by cutting off the account (or at least his access) and delete ALL mail unseen.
She would be wrong but had legal access to attempt this and(in most states) have legal power to act on his behalf and well as her own.

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