Latency Sat's inherently slow latency will always make satellite ISP service horrible. No one in their right mind should be using it.
In the future... In the future, if Dish does follow through with the broadband plans and/or wireless provider plans, anyone think Karl will admit he was wrong ?
Of course he won't admit he was wrong...
reply to Hall
Not a chance. Then again there won't be any evidence because any posts that prove it will be deleted for either being off topic or trolling. Just like this and probably your post will be deleted for pointing it out.
I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company.
reply to not
said by not :It is better than dial-up unless playing online games or VOIP services.
Sat's inherently slow latency will always make satellite ISP service horrible. No one in their right mind should be using it.
reply to battleop
Re: In the future... The key word is rumored
Dish owns HughesNet 1) Dish owns HughesNet
2) ViaSat owns WildBlue
3) ViaSat Built both Ka Band (identical) satellites for Dish and WildBlue.
4) The will have very simulator plans....
Hughesnet Just to let you know. Echo star owns hughes net. Echo star supplies dish network. It only makes sense that dish network will bundle some day. Especially with the new bird.
Time Warner Intern..
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
reply to Hall
Re: In the future... You guys are being really kind to me, thanks. Note (as link above notes) I'm not alone in wondering if Dish's LTE build is a bluff, but don't bother actually reading what I write or the stories I link to -- just crap on me for fun. I really like how you don't actually say anything of substance about the actual subject (Dish LTE build), you just take a giant commentary crap on the author for no reason.
Anyway, this is off topic. Locking it just in case some people want to oh, actually discuss the story.
Also, as a reminder, we're paying people to write their own stories. Since mine are clearly so unpalatable to you, and you clearly have vast insights into these issues, I'll be eagerly looking for your submissions.
Great... Yet another sub-par, slow, heavily capped, high latency option for Americans to chose from. Just behold the competition!
it's satellite broadband that caters to rural customers... what would you really expect from that?
reply to Alex J
said by Alex J :Not really much you can do about the high latency. But 5mbps isn't too slow. This sounds quite a bit different than what I have heard from rumors for Hughesnet's new upcoming service.
Yet another sub-par, slow, heavily capped, high latency option for Americans to chose from. Just behold the competition!
Anyone understand physics of the electromagnetic spectrum? "While insiders note that Echostar's new EchoStar 17 satellite can handle services up to 15 Mbps, initial Dish offerings will likely be dialed down to 5 Mbps to protect capacity. The services will be bundled with existing services, Dish will be able to handle about 2 million connections."
I don't see how you can handle 2 million 5 Mbps connections off of one satellite. Could someone explain the physics of this?
Any comments on what kind of caps this service will have?
why not use terrestar and ico sats? why are they not using the satellites they acquired along with the 2ghz spectrum? they could sell services that use satellite only now and faster tower based connections as the network gets built out.
devils in the details.. ALL satellite broadband end up using the wireless isp model of throttling, caps and overages... so the devil is still in the details.. including price. Can't imagine it being worth more than $30 assuming the status quo QOS. Also, the equipment & installation are high upfront costs of service in addition which shouldn't be ignored.
reply to tom thomas
Re: why not use terrestar and ico sats? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that those birds don't have anywhere near the capacity that new ones (ViaSat-1, Echostar-17) have.
reply to tmc8080
Re: devils in the details.. Dish's boradband is going to be yet another option for folks who don't have wireline or fixed wireless options. Sat companies know they can't go after folks who have full-on low-latency broadband connectivity.
No cellular service In addition to having no other options for internet than satellite, we also can't get cellular service with a mile of where we live so we're almost stone-age without the satellite service.
The basic Hughesnet package works good for us compared to dial-up. Others have had major problems with it. We may be scraping snow off the dish in the Winter time, but we'll see how it works in a few more months.
Pricing is key I've said it before, the problem with satellite broadband marketing plans is that they are marketing it towards the wrong people. They need to market it towards the rural areas, where wired-broadband is not an option. Where I live, there are several areas that don't have access to any wired broadband options. No cable. No DSL. Most places do have cellular coverage, and cellular broadband is an option, but it's what? $60 a month for 3GB of data?
The majority of these people in these rural areas could care less about the download speed of their connection. These are people that are on dialup Internet connection and get, at best, 40kbps connections. As such, they've never used the Internet for a whole lot, so their monthly bandwidth needs are low as well. But when they are paying $15 or $20 a month for a dialup connection, they're not going to pay $60 a month just to get faster speeds.
Market this satellite broadband as an alternative to dialup. Set the max speed to 1mbps or even 512kbps if you really want to be conservative. Hey! It's still faster than dialup! A monthly bandwidth allotment of 10GB should be enough for most users. But the price is the selling point. $40 a month is what I'd like to see. Really I'd like to see $30 a month, but that's probably wishful thinking. I think satellite providers could get a lot of dialup customers, if they set their prices accordingly and don't focus so much on the download speed. Dialup users just want something that's "faster than dialup". Latency also isn't an issue because these are dialup users.
Ditch Network That should be the new name for this DISH provider. Ditch because everyone is ditching them for better service and prices.